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thepyro222
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Juat thought I'd revive this topic. What does the AG universe think?

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Jefferysinspiration
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Is it always fair for those who escape the death penalty to be awarded a new identity and a new life for them to reoffend?

I mean i understand the people who do repent, change their lives or whatever, but i think too much whatstheword - reward? is given to a number of criminals.

loloynage2
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I stick by my theory that imprisonment is the best thing, as previously stated criminals could re-offend. Rehab doesn't work all the time. The prison system s very laxed and reward systems within prisons are terrible for criminals who have committed serious crimes. Solidarity confinement with nothing but their minds to reflect on the crimes they have committed and books should be allowed. Minimal interaction perhaps.

Well, trowing in a couple of rehab hours in your mix won't hurt.
Jefferysinspiration
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No i don't disagree with rehab, i disagree with the implication that rehab should be the only punishment dished out.

loloynage2
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No i don't disagree with rehab, i disagree with the implication that rehab should be the only punishment dished out.

Well if you're stuck in rehab, it's like prison...
MageGrayWolf
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How about we give the option to the convict? If you have a life sentence with no chance of parole/rehabilitation, your given the option to either spend the rest of your life being put to work or you can opt out and be put to death.

Jefferysinspiration
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I've already stated that the casual prison system isn't a good enough punishment either. If rehab had luxuries i don't think it's a good system for severe criminals.

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If you have a life sentence with no chance of parole/rehabilitation, your given the option to either spend the rest of your life being put to work or you can opt out and be put to death.


Considering how the vast majority of crimes never reach a jury, and only a jury can sentence to death, this is usually how it works. The prosecutor will (usually) offer a deal for a guilty plea, and the offender gets a life sentence with no parole, as opposed to the death penalty. The choice is given many months before the trial, and if they turn it down they're crazy or innocent.

Thus is why a proportionately larger number of people on death row are innocent compared to the rest of the corrections system.

I have my own opinions on the judicial system, but they go something like this: Kill them or low sentence. Basically, if they get a sentence longer than say, 15 years, it's pointless to keep them. So beyond that, automatic life without or the death penalty is applied, the offender can choose.

Thus, I support the death penalty.

Also, if it's murder, I still like the 'on the courthouse steps' idea of execution. Quick and easy.
Zydrate
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Well if you're stuck in rehab, it's like prison...

Making it even less of an incentive to go through with the program.
Zydrate
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if they get a sentence longer than say, 15 years, it's pointless to keep them.


Check this out, I'm about to have a heart.

Eighteen year olds are tried as adults. That's super young. So if they get that kind of sentence, their lives are hardly over after that.

I'd say something more drastic, like 40 years or more.
Jefferysinspiration
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Eighteen year olds are tried as adults. That's super young. So if they get that kind of sentence, their lives are hardly over after that.


Do you mean that they still have a life after prison sentence because they're so young?
Zydrate
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Do you mean that they still have a life after prison sentence because they're so young?

Basically.
loloynage2
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Making it even less of an incentive to go through with the program.

Why? because it works?

I've already stated that the casual prison system isn't a good enough punishment either. If rehab had luxuries i don't think it's a good system for severe criminals.

No, no luxuries, just basic rehabilitation programs specialized in x offense.
Jefferysinspiration
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Ah see this i think is a good thing, depending on the crime.
But what about if someone is a minor?

There's a case that happened in england. (Although the death penalty isn't here, i'm just using it as an example.) Here.

I mean if a minor kills someone, should they be released at the age of 18?

Zydrate
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Why? because it works?

Because... It'd be like prison. Like you said.
xfirealchemistx
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I can't say either way because I never had my family member or friend brutally murdered,*****, etc... So I could never feel the way the relatives and friends of the victim would feel. Most people say the death penalty is wrong until one of their loved ones is hurt and then they are all for it.

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