ForumsWEPRBurning of the American Flag(or country flag)/freedom of speech

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FutureUSMC
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I saw yet another video of a group of protestors burning the American flag. The disgust me! Please tell me someone else out here agrees that it is wrong and should be illegal.

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MaroonHorizon
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The American Flag got burned because some Americans are stereotypical racist bigots who can't keep their mouth shut about other cultures.


Please give a solid example. Living in the Midwest, I see a lot of racism, but the people out here aren't around genuine culture. Racism doesn't seem like the instigator for the burning of these flags.

Now im not saying that some cultures don't have certain rituals that may seem to go against what we believe as a country


Again, I see no connection between this and the burnings. It seems like you are taking your ideas, and pinning them on the mind of the "burners." Racism is present in the United States, but racism is abstract, it exists everywhere. I don't see the U.S. as a whole, ostracising other cultures. Look at our architecture. You will see Greek, Gothic, and Hispanic influence almost immediately. Compare us to Europe, where most countries have one dominant culture. Eastern Europe, in particular, has be the site of ethnic conflict many, many times. Overall, we haven't experienced any major violence due to ethnicity.

We may be deeply involved in other countries, for reasons I have yet to figure out, but we are not as imperialistic as you are making out.
wipe42
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We may be deeply involved in other countries, for reasons I have yet to figure out, but we are not as imperialistic as you are making out.


Some of it may have to do with oil and money and just to make us look like the good guys. Well that's just how I see it anyway...

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Well I think that burning the American flag could just be an extreme extension of our Freedom of Speech, but if done for another country it should be considered treason. I do know that if any other countries flag is flow above the American flag on American soil it's treason.
Kellinger
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burning our flag is showing the government and the people that they are going to be destroyed. could be considered treason, not freedom of speech. they can say we dislike america but not burn the flag.

Wyrzen
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The supreme court case Texas v. Johnson gave Americans the right to burn the flag as a form of freedom of speech.

It was approved by the Supreme Court. It's not going to be illegal.

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I don't care if they burn the flag. The flag is something that is meant to be respected. If a group of people wishes to disrespect the flag, they themselves will get no respect from the people, and will get nothing more in political gain than spit.

Wyrzen
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Agreed.

sprooschicken
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thias seems so alien to me as a brit, its almost as if this flag is like agod to you? its just some cloth!

i mean if someone burns britains flag, id be like yeah i love my country, you obviously dont, i respect that opinion and im sad you have it

when someone burns a flag more often than not they arent saying in want to destroy you, there saying i can do this to what symbolises you as i have no respect for you, or it

Wyrzen
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Its just the view of how much sacrifice went into the formation of our country. Americans have much pride in the country and how we came about.

Avorne
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Oh yeah, the mass persecution and in some cases slaughter of native Americans is really something for you guys to be proud of, I applaud you.

Wyrzen
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Oh? And you think non-americans are totally innocent?

skrambul
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As an American combat veteran currently posting from overseas all I can say about this thread is lol.

sprooschicken
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take this to the amreica thread! anyways he didnt say that he just said that the formation of your country was, well filled with moral grey areas... to put it lightly

Avorne
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There are definitely areas that I applaud the founders of America on, they tried to create a country of equality and rights and one where the government wouldn't be able to run amok with no checks or balances on the power that it held, I merely feel that not all of America's history is something to take pride in. As an Englishman I can honestly say that England has done some terrible, terrible things in the past and I acknowledge that, we're not innocent at all, but that doesn't mean that there aren't good points too. I merely despise it when people seem to blindly support the whole history of their country, taking pride in everything that it's done historically, while all the while they seem to ignore the fact that their country isn't exactly innocent. I'd rather people celebrated the highlights of their countries history but still remembered the times when that country was guilty of wrongdoing too.

Wyrzen
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I don't take pride in most of my country. America has degenerated from capitalism and free enterprise, to socialism, 65% taxes, and corruption. We're at our worst in this moment of time. What I have pride in is the American sprit, and what she does.

zakyman
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While unethical and disturbing, the US Supreme Court ruled in Texas v. Johnson that it is an appropriate form of free speech and protected by the Constitution.

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