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Toadlord
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So ya apparently this Holocaust nonbeliever named his kid Adolf Hitler. (Hitler being his middle name).

When he and his wife went to get his name put on a cake at a grocery store for his birthday, the store refused to put it on for them.

What do you think of this? Did the store have the right to refuse?

Either way...it doesn't look like this kid is going to get invited to any Batmitzfas any time soon. =P

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thelistman
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No, they did not. It is a direct violation of rights, plus, it's just a freaking name.

What about the rights of the company? Think of all the flak and abuse they would receive if they made that cake! They'd be run out of business by angry politically correct people.

ChopstickBoB
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No, they did not. It is a direct violation of rights, plus, it's just a freaking name.
But actually, it really depends on the country :P

Not in your country (which is also mine). Try as I might though I can't find anywhere were some lawyer commentator has specifically said as such, though the general consensus appears to be that the store was fully within their rights to refuse service. This is the best I could find, which funny enough is another forum.
[url]http://www.politicalforum.com/political-opinions-beliefs/62855-hitler-denied-birthday-cake.html[/url]
And it was smart for them to. The news stories of them refusing should be good for business.
woody_7007
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Ah thanks ChopstickBOB i was wondering where it was. I do know that in Austria it's illegal to be a holocaust denyer and to basically be a neo nazi. I was just wondering where it occured as it could change the legal grounding of the case.

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I think that since this store is probably somewhere else, over there it's not a free country, so therefore they can refuse. Now, I don't think that it's right in any way means necessary for a few reasons! First of all, the kid didn't and never chose what his father did! to ANYONE! I think that refusing to sign his birthday for those reasons is very rude and messed up. Now, I don't know why he doesn't believe what his father or gram` pa did but that's because he was raised that way! I don't care what you guys say: "Oh, what if the store 'erson' was Jewish, they had the right to refuse"! Sorry but that's Bull Hunky! That's exactly like you guys being the child of The Green River Killer, you didn't have a choice of what your father did, and yet when you want a birthday cake they refuse it because the store clerks daughter died by your father! Now don't get me wrong, I would be mad at his FATHER, but I would not take it out on his kid. Do you guys see my point at all? Well anyways the store was most likely from another country as I said, so they could do whatever they want to. =*( How sad. Got to put a smile on my face now! ^_^

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I think that since this store is probably somewhere else, over there it's not a free country, so therefore they can refuse.


This happened in New Jersey, USA. And it was a local supermarket.

Now, I don't know why he doesn't believe what his father or gram` pa did but that's because he was raised that way!


The kid is like a few years old and probably doesn't know what the heck is going on. And no one is "blaming" the kid for anything.

"Oh, what if the store 'erson' was Jewish, they had the right to refuse"! Sorry but that's Bull Hunky!


If I'm Jewish and someone asks me to make a cake in the shape of a swastika I would have the right to refuse. But that was just an example anyway.

That's exactly like you guys being the child of The Green River Killer, you didn't have a choice of what your father did, and yet when you want a birthday cake they refuse it because the store clerks daughter died by your father!


Ahh, that was an odd example. But I guess if the child of the green river killer came in and ordered a cake with "Happy birthday Green River Killer Kid" and the owner's brother was a victim of said killer, I'm pretty sure they would have the right to refuse to make the cake.
Snakebite
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Agreed. Almost every store in America has a sign that says: "We have the right to refuse service to ANYONE"

Armed_Blade
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Okay, This is a weird post.
First and foremost the company has done no fault. I would never, EVER sign a B-day cake saying "Happy Birthday HITLER!! ^^". Why? Because invetiably if that got around the company would die. Any private company has the right to refuse someone for any reason they like. Probably because if word got around, baii baii company.

Its his middle name, you never know, Adolf on its own isn't that bad of a name, and he just has to keep his middle name secret for evAA.

His parents are rather stupid, maybe that or they had reasons to do this. As psycho as this may sound hitler was pretty 'Great' in his own sense. He was evil and all, crazy, bad, blah blah, but he rose to power in Germany with little effort, fixed an economy that had crumbled, renewed a country that was terrorized with rementants of war in a few decades. The parents may have wanted the kid to have some strong name, or maybe the parents had heritage to the two nams.

Though the parents are stupid on the part that they did not think of the child. Being named "Little Nig" or "Tiny Hooker" these days just isn't kewl. The kid will get harassed for ever. I have a friend named "Achilles". Not only that, He's Hispanic. People will kick his heel for Ever. (Not to mention they already do)


Anyway, Poor child and the company had 100% right to do so. Besides, the parents could buy a little paste thingy and put the name on themselves. I just hope the child comes out okay, it would really suck if his mind gets screwed up (Sad) all because of his parents' naming him.



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woody_7007
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off topic but....

fixed an economy that had crumbled, renewed a country that was terrorized with rementants of war in a few decades.


Nazi economic policy aimed to create an autarky which it failed to do. Unemplyment was still very high in the 30s. It also relied on US loans.
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hitler got around unemployment by saying jews, gypsies etc wren't people so didn't count. And saying housewife was a job. Store has the right to do what they want. Though I don't see why they would refuse Adolf is just a name after all.

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No matter what the parent's beliefs, If they loved their kid they would realize that hes gonna have a tough life having that name, unless they are completely ignorant to the fact that most people will get hostile for hear that name no less meeting someone with that name. I feel bad for the child.

The store has the right to refuse service to anyone. If someone walked into the store said "hey, F you, bake me a cake" they would probably say "how about you get out of my store, the only cake I'm baking you is one with rat poison" Its the same case.

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The store has the right to refuse service to anyone. If someone walked into the store said "hey, F you, bake me a cake" they would probably say "how about you get out of my store, the only cake I'm baking you is one with rat poison" Its the same case.



I was not to sure on what to think on whether the store had the right to or not, but i think that just sealed up the fact that the store had the right to refuse.
Xzeno
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the only cake I'm baking you is one with rat poison" Its the same case.
That probably counts as a terroristic death threat these days...

And yes, the store has the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason. I do feel sorry for that kid, not only due to the name, but because he will probably grow up learning nothing but hate.
Toadlord
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The way this family sounds, I doubt this kid will go to public school.

All these families with wierd dynamics keeps their kids away from the public.

Snakebite
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Off topic again... Hitler has an amazing story! He was a private in WWI, and became a General right before WWII was started. IF Hitler was able to initiate everything he was planning, that would have been one of the best built governments in the world. It sounds strange because of who Hitler was, but he had a brilliant mind and was an amazing leader. I'm just saying that not everything Hitler did was bad.

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Snakebite, Hitler was a HORRIBLE leader. He was succesful at first because France and Britain (I beleive those are right) were so afraid of getting into another war they gave him what he wanted.

Do you know why Hitler lost the war? There are multiple reasons but he lost the war because he became over confident and he decided AGAINST his own generals. It was his poor and stupid battle plans that were so retarded that made him lose the war. He got as far as he did because of luck but lost the war partly due to the fact he was not good with making battle plans and decided to do things his own way. Hitler also betrayed his allies and because of him he killed millions of people. Millions of lives where lost because Hitler beleived that WWI was not over, just prolonged. In his views, and the views of many other Germans, they should have won WWII and when it was over there just were not enough people to fight the war. They didn't see it as losing. Hitler was one of the ignorant SOBs.

Sorry to say this, and as much as I would love to stay profesional as a mod, I must say that you were wrong wrong wrong.

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