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theguitarhero777
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I think there should be a war to keep the terrorists out of our country and many others. what do you think about the war?

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TSL3_needed
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Well, as I said before, this is a faceless enemy, making it impossible to negotiate with. We just go say "Hey, we want to negotiate". It unfortunatly doesnt work like that.

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I'm not saying with the insurgents, but really overall. I understand that the Insurgency is a faceless foe. But what I'm saying is that when we're fighting an enemy with a face, then negotiation is good.

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Ah ok, I see what you mean. Although we are fighting a faceless foe at the moment, negotiations should be attemted if we go to war with a foe that we can negotiate with, right?

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War is human nature, the want to be more powerful than someone else so that you don't get killed. Survival Instinct Numero Uno.
In regard to the Iraq War, I don't think that anyone can fix things. 8 years of interfering in the pants of countries we shouldn't have our hands in, aren't going to just stop over 2000 years of cival war.

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@TSL, exactly. When we're fighting an organized enemy, negotiations can potentially save thousands of American lives.

TSL3_needed
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And probably thousands of their lives to.

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And is that necessarily a bad thing? The individual soldier does not represent the whole country, and killing innocents over a dispute between politicians is just wrong.

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I dont think war is neccesary
terrorists can also be driven out by non-violent methods

TSL3_needed
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And is that necessarily a bad thing? The individual soldier does not represent the whole country, and killing innocents over a dispute between politicians is just wrong.


I'm not talking about collateral, although there of course will be, I'm talking about there soldiers.

I dont think war is neccesary
terrorists can also be driven out by non-violent methods


Do you really think so? Last I checked they flew a couple 767s into some towers killing 3000 americans. That is a war crime by near unimaginable standards. 3000 people in the span of 2 hours. The holocaust barely stands up to that. Oh, and the Pentagon and were going for the White House as well. All Unprovoced.
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Do you really think so? Last I checked they flew a couple 767s into some towers killing 3000 americans. That is a war crime by near unimaginable standards. 3000 people in the span of 2 hours. The holocaust barely stands up to that. Oh, and the Pentagon and were going for the White House as well. All Unprovoced.


3000 dead is quite imaginable and in the history of "war crimes" is fairly insignificant. And to claim the holocaust doesn't stand up to this one event is just plain offensive. And besides that, the Holocaust is just one example of genocide which is still occurring in places like Rwanda, Kosovo, part of Indochina, etc.
Your outlook mimics that of many Americans, however, who just seem to have no sense of their overall place in the world. To claim these attacks were unprovoked would be to ignore much of American history, especially after about 1950.
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If you read more carefully, I said in 2 hours. The holocaust killed 20,000,000 people in 13 years. They probably killed more in 2 hours than 3,000 people but in one place, that is highly unlikely. This is not genocide, no, but is is a very high war crime that is punishible by death to anyone remotely involved.

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If you read more carefully, I said in 2 hours. The holocaust killed 20,000,000 people in 13 years. They probably killed more in 2 hours than 3,000 people but in one place, that is highly unlikely. This is not genocide, no, but is is a very high war crime that is punishible by death to anyone remotely involved.


What the hell are you talking about? I have no idea where you got the figure of 20 million. Roughly 11 million people were killed, approximate;ly 6 million Jews and 4 million 'undesirables'. There are pictures and vidoes of mass shooting where more than 3,000 people were killed within the course of hours, let alone the death camps that existed throughout Poland and the USSR.
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Your not including russians are you? No. Undisiarables are political enemies, people outspoken against Hitler, e.c.t.

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War is intresting thing like in WWII the guns and planes and ships were all being to get more firepower speed war helps you discover and make new things.

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