ForumsWEPR[necro] Legalization of Marijuana

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ligaboy
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I know that there is a topic about legalizing drugs, but I wanted to talk about Marijuana specifically.

Marijuana was banned in 1937 in the US and is now said to be a gate-way to more dangerous illegal drugs. However in this current state of economy I think we'd be better off with the legalization of marijuana. First, it would provide jobs for people. Second, more tax money to the government. Third, it would decrease sale to minors.

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VoteSocialist
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so we should also legalize heroin and cocaine. it brings more money than weed. and while we are at legalizing things only because they will happen and bring money, how about car stealing or paid hitman. if these people could legally do their jobs it would help the economy


Just because we want to legalize marijuana how does that mean we also want terrible drugs like heroin and cocaine to be decriminalized? I don't think anyone here besides maybe thelistman is a pro-drug extremist. And that hitman thing is just insane, too much capitalism is bad in my opinion but it surely isn't a system where killing people is legal.
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so we should also legalize heroin and cocaine. it brings more money than weed. and while we are at legalizing things only because they will happen and bring money, how about car stealing or paid hitman. if these people could legally do their jobs it would help the economy


No, if you decide to read the rest of what I said I say that Marijuana is less harmful than alcohol, which it is. My first reason isn't my only motive for wanting pot legalized. That would just be foolish. So please don't put words in my mouth donpiet.
donpiet
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it was not my argument for legalizing drugs like marihuana for the tax profit it will bring.
and if you follow that argument, than it means that the more tax profit you can generate, the earlier you should legalize something.

and i just took your argumentation a couple of steps ahead and by using the most extreme example i wanted to illustrate my point.

i do not think, that a decision upon legalizing any kind of drug should be made upon economic advantages. this are dangerous substances and it should be the well being of the people and not of the tax income that is the highest priority

Lieutenut
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I too think that legalizing a drug should be made upon economic advantages. It should be part of it however, along with if crime rate will be lowered, and how dangerous the drug is.

donpiet
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I too think that legalizing a drug should be made upon economic advantages


you get economic advanteges every time you legalize something.

so it leaves the 2 last criteria to make the decision
Lieutenut
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True.

Moabarmorgamer
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Yes. I don't really see the harm in legalizing marijuana. According to wikipedia,in a nutshell, marijuana calms you down...although the long-term effects are unknown. It's illegal because it's a gateway drug, but if you think about it, it's a gateway drug because it's illegal. Because if people are willing to break the law to get marijuana, then they will break the law to get other drugs. I suppose it could be illegal. Then the government could make some money off it.

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first of all its already legal in california, you just need a license to buy it, and tobacco has more long term cause (that we know of) so I think it would give them a chance to run more experiments and find how dangerous it really is. Plus it not like most teenagers have already tried it i know i have

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Even if that person has a clean record as I said? Surely not everyone who does weed is going to be a junkie some day because they went outside for break to have a quick joint.

Yeah if the person has a clean record that's great but it's still in a sense bring drugs into the work place. Don't get my wrong I'm completely for legalization (not just medical legalization). I guess when it comes down to it it would be the work places choose of policy that would have to dictate. And no that doesn't mean their gonna be a junkie someday the whole "gateway drug" theory is extremely flawed. Only people who want to get into hard drugs will smoking pot doesn't make you want to try harder drugs.

i do not think, that a decision upon legalizing any kind of drug should be made upon economic advantages. this are dangerous substances and it should be the well being of the people and not of the tax income that is the highest priority

Personally my arguements have never been based solely on the economic benefits. The point I have usually tried to make is that in comparasion with other drugs (alcohol, cocaine, heroine, tobacco, etc) marijuana's dangers are negligible. Here are some stats for you. The economic benefit is really just a sort of bonus in my opinion.

Blu3sBr0s made some extremely excellent points above. (Yes I read the whole rant.) Personally I don't drink which I could do legally since I'm over 21 (according to U.S. laws) but I love smoking pot. I always found it to be way more fun than drinking. As I've said, people do way more stupid, crazy, and dangerous things while drunk.
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Oh, I barely touched on how much healthier marijuana is compared to alcohol and tobacco.

Both alcohol and tobacco cause gum disease.

Tobacco causes heart problems, alcohol doesn't but will aggravate already existing problems.

Fertility?

There's alcohol and tobacco again.

Brain Damage?

That's right, both of them.

VoteSocialist
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Isn't smoking a joint even worse than having two cigarettes?

Veobahamut
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There are other ways of taking weed you don't have to smoke it.

Graham
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marijuana messes up your endorphines with THC

alcohol and tobacco does not justify marijuana; the bad are still bad even if you have something worse

Graham
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another thought: if you are around someone who drinks alot you can drive him home. if you are around someone who smokes pot you can't drive because of second-hand smoke.

after smoking marijuana your endorphines (happy hormones) become more depleted than average and leaves you in a depressed state. an example would be the Lotus Eaters story in The Odyssey but to a less extreme. this is true of most all illegal drugs

the only medical purpose weed gives is helping glaucoma (cloudy eyes). if it is legalised it should be as protected as Vicaden.

Veobahamut
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after smoking marijuana your endorphines (happy hormones) become more depleted than average and leaves you in a depressed state. an example would be the Lotus Eaters story in The Odyssey but to a less extreme.


This doesn't happen to everyone and as for second hand smoke you can open a window or tell your friend to stop smoking.
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