This news will upset some of you. This news will gladden some of you. This news may be met with a "this issue is dragging on far too much" by most of the rest of you.
Really I don't see how gays wanting to be married is even an issue anymore than allowing blacks to sit at the front of a bus.
So where to sit on the bus is as important a decision as marriage? My point was that marriage should be between a man and a woman, and why a gay person would want to defy all normalcy and marry another of their same type of sex when they make no more commitment, since I'm assuming they live together and have sex already.
Funny how whenever people say things like this, it's reminiscient of anti black sentiment.
Yeah, but we're not making slaves out of them, we're telling them not to get married. Doesn't seem like a problem since gays sleep together and live together anyway, and usually don't have religious affliation that makes them not want to divorce each other. So marriage doesn't merge their relationship anyway. Why bother?
Your argument isn't logical at all. You say you have to be physically attracted to your own sex in order to make the choice to be homosexual? Taking part in actions that make you homosexual isn't what makes you gay in the first place; it's the attraction, which you have no control over.
When I said "you" I was talking specifically to thisisnotanalt.
Yeah, but we're not making slaves out of them, we're telling them not to get married.
He wasn't referring to the argument slavery advocates used, he was referring to the argument against inter-racial marriage which took place not only 40 years ago. "It's not natural, it'll undermine the values of my own marriage, etc" have all been recycled from back in those times.
Doesn't seem like a problem since gays sleep together and live together anyway,
So, all gay couples share an apartment together and have sex on a regular basis, right? Good generalisation, man. Might want to watch what you say from now on.
Like I've said before, it's not a matter of the fundamentals of a marriage, it's a legal issue that needs to be resolved. The fact of the matter is that gay people are not receiving the same rights as others because they are not allowed to marry, which violates the Constitution.
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and why a gay person would want to defy all normalcy and marry another of their same type of sex when they make no more commitment,
Then heterosexual marriage is the same way, and thereofre useless by our thought process. Marriage is symbolic of union, and two people that love each other deeply should be able to have that symbolism behind them. -----------
My point was that marriage should be between a man and a woman,
Why does it matter? Why do you care? It's not like Freddy Mercury is cutting you in the arm every time a homosexual couple marries. Why do you care?
So where to sit on the bus is as important a decision as marriage? My point was that marriage should be between a man and a woman, and why a gay person would want to defy all normalcy and marry another of their same type of sex when they make no more commitment, since I'm assuming they live together and have sex already.
Uh yes 'straight' people (or whites for comparison) had rights which the other group didn't have
Yeah, but we're not making slaves out of them, we're telling them not to get married
Slavery isn't the topic, the denial of a right which everyone has is the topic.
My point was that marriage should be between a man and a woman, and why a gay person would want to defy all normalcy and marry another of their same type of sex when they make no more commitment, since I'm assuming they live together and have sex already.
"Make no more commitment" as in it's basically the same thing so I don't see your point if their both trying the same amount shouldn't they both get the results they want?
Doesn't seem like a problem since gays sleep together and live together anyway,
Stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid, seriously not all gays are married so that retarded statement makes no sense, if your straight do you always sleep with other straight people?
The fact of the matter is that gay people are not receiving the same rights as others because they are not allowed to marry, which violates the Constitution.
No offense, but have you ever noticed how most people who are against gay marriage seem to always not back up their arguments with facts, instead using personal opinions and religious reasons, while those who support it usually use logic or something to back up their arguments? Just an observation... Anyways
Yeah, but we're not making slaves out of them, we're telling them not to get married. Doesn't seem like a problem since gays sleep together and live together anyway, and usually don't have religious affliation that makes them not want to divorce each other. So marriage doesn't merge their relationship anyway. Why bother?
Even those who have religious reasons not to divorce sometimes do divorce. The same of your argument could be said in reverse, why bother stopping them from marrying?
So where to sit on the bus is as important a decision as marriage? My point was that marriage should be between a man and a woman, and why a gay person would want to defy all normalcy and marry another of their same type of sex when they make no more commitment, since I'm assuming they live together and have sex already.
I'm a little annoyed by the "defy all normalcy". Normalcy is a false state, put into place by those who think their way is the better one. Its really not your place to define normalcy, when you have so many biases. No one can define normal anyways, as its impossible to completely ignore those biases. You're viewing marriage as an attempt to gain benefits for gay couples. They're more things to it than that though. Allowing gay marriage is important in order to allow homosexual couples to be treated as equal, and you can't say they're treated equal now. If you deny them something so many other people have, its like you're looking down upon them, which you shouldn't. We shouldn't have the right to stop them from marrying, they're still human, just as religion, skin color or anything else doesn't change that. Some people seem to have forgotten that...
wow im starting to hate the catholic church... haha and im catholic.. It seems our religion likes to throw in a bunch of bullsh't rules trying to make a "norm" and create a bunch of those who aren't in this certain "norm". The fact is that we shouldn't have to have a vote to determine who is married. It would be like saying well in order for you and the person you love the most to live a good life together and be bonded by matrimony at least 50% of the state has to agree... It's a bunch of bullsh't. Who are we to say that 2 people can't get married. And for all those who want to desagree saying how god intended it to be man and women, let me help you shove that stick farther up your a$$..
I poorly chose my words, and I apologize for that. To be honest, this isn't the most important issue to me personally, I was only stating my views. However, I did it in a very rude way, so I'm sorry for that.
Like I've said before, it's not a matter of the fundamentals of a marriage, it's a legal issue that needs to be resolved. The fact of the matter is that gay people are not receiving the same rights as others because they are not allowed to marry, which violates the Constitution.
Then just make civil unions equal to marriage legally! Then there should be no problem!!
Okay, I've heard a lot of liberals say "Why does it matter to you conservatives if they marry? It doesn't directly affect you!". Well, that argument goes both ways. Why does it matter to (straight) liberals what happens to homosexual people? Whatever your answer, it's the same desire to affect the social public backing your answer that's backing the conservatives' answers. We want to protect our marriage.
Oh, and God doesn't hate gays, God hates homosexuality. BIG difference. Just throwing that out there.
Okay, I've heard a lot of liberals say "Why does it matter to you conservatives if they marry? It doesn't directly affect you!". Well, that argument goes both ways. Why does it matter to (straight) liberals what happens to homosexual people?
You know this sentence makes you sound like you advocate giving some people less rights than others. Sure it doesn't directly effect "straight" liberal minded people, but it's still the fair and decent thing to do. What's wrong with being understanding to fellow human beings?
You know this sentence makes you sound like you advocate giving some people less rights than others. Sure it doesn't directly effect "straight" liberal minded people, but it's still the fair and decent thing to do. What's wrong with being understanding to fellow human beings?
The point was that, just because one is not directly affected by an issue that does not mean that the person can't feel strongly about and want to have an effect on the argument. And what's wrong with wanting to defend the holy sanctity of marriage?
Wigginometry, please answer me on this...would you or would you not be satisfied with making civil unions the exact same, legally, as marriage?
I kinda agree with the part of if 2 people are in love they should be able to marry and that's where it ends. They are just scared that it will only be Guy to Guy and Woman to Woman in the end and no Guy to Girl. Gay people are also starting their own race because of same sex marriage.
And what's wrong with wanting to defend the holy sanctity of marriage?
If that's why you want to keep marriage for only man-to-woman, then there shouldn't be any government benefits or recognition of marriage, because it would be respecting an establishment of religion, which is against the Constitution. If you want marriage to be disregarded completely by the government, then you can keep it to straight couples and defend it's 'holy sanctity.'
I kinda agree with the part of if 2 people are in love they should be able to marry and that's where it ends. They are just scared that it will only be Guy to Guy and Woman to Woman in the end and no Guy to Girl. Gay people are also starting their own race because of same sex marriage.
Geez, snake, ur feeling awfully political aren't you? (Posting everywhere). Yah, me 2.
Lol that's kind of a funny argument because...if the gays did get their own race, I don't think it could last more than a generation!
