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Dragon1Reborn
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obama wants to use our tax money to pay for abortions with the new health care bill, now for some people that would be ok with them. but for me i am Pro-life and i want to choise how my money is spent. what are your ideas?

p.s. this is not a forum to talk if abortion is bad or good just to see if it should be in the new health care

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SportsChamp
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Yes. For lots of reasons. I just do not know what to debate.

Veobahamut
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Yeah, The new health care bill is too help people who can't afford health insurance so if you can't afford to have a baby or an abortian this plan should help them, so yes it's a good idea.

Moabarmorgamer
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No. Not that I am against abortions, but our tax money shouldn't go to cleaning up people's mistake(of having a child they didn't want).

Veobahamut
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Abortion* and rape can also be something people don't want.

SportsChamp
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No. Not that I am against abortions, but our tax money shouldn't go to cleaning up people's mistake(of having a child they didn't want).


So what do you think we should be spending it on?
Veobahamut
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It censored out the word used when a woman is made to do something against her will.

Cenere
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I funnily enough cannot remember what we do here, though it probably is in the health care.
You might be pro-life, and therefor not wanting to pay for abortions, but I am sure the racists do not want to pay for health care to black people, and the hard core Christians does not want to pay for non-Christians to get better and so on.
If you have a problem with it, I say, think of it like this: The pro lifers pay for everything but the abortions, and the pro-abortion people pay for everything. In the end, it is just taxes to help out other people and yourself, and as such a pro-life person, I am sure you want to help out people who need these money to survive.
But then again, your statement seems to prove me wrong, and you do not want to help people at all, just wants to kick the pro-abort people.

Moabarmorgamer
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So what do you think we should be spending it on?

Research for a cure for cancer, other things like that. There's an extreme difference from getting sick(person has no responsibility for getting sick)and having a baby(person's choice to have sex). What I'm saying is: people who want abortions were irresponsible by having a baby they didn't want, and the government shouldn't pay for their mistake and get them an abortion, although I am in favor of legalizing abortions themselves. I would rather that money went to equipment or research for people who are really sick.
Cenere
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people who want abortions were irresponsible by having a baby they didn't want,

Or people who are getting the child they wanted, but sadly this child is killing the mother.
Is that being sick or irresponsible?
What about if the child is dead, and the mother needs help with the abortion, because the child is not just doing the normal, natural abortion cycle, possibly because it is too big/old to do that?
Moegreche
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obama wants to use our tax money to pay for abortions with the new health care bill


This is absolutely untrue. Just think for one second - would a politician seriously use government funding to support such a highly debated topic?
This is rhetoric used by those who oppose the health care bill for a variety of reasons. These people then say things like "Obama's bill will pay for abortions" without any merit to the statement whatsoever.
I don't care if you don't like the bill or don't like Obama, but keep the debate to things that are actually true. The closest thing to supporting abortion this bill does is that there is no clause in it preventing funding for abortion. Even the most ardent opponents of this bill must admit that not disallowing something is far from supporting it.
Moabarmorgamer
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Or people who are getting the child they wanted, but sadly this child is killing the mother.
Is that being sick or irresponsible?
What about if the child is dead, and the mother needs help with the abortion, because the child is not just doing the normal, natural abortion cycle, possibly because it is too big/old to do that?


You've crossed the fine line between abortion and miscarriage. Miscarriage, there's nothing the mother could do, so I want that to be funded. Abortion, on the other hand, different story.
Graham
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Just think for one second - would a politician seriously use government funding to support such a highly debated topic?


Yes. they are with global warming
Graham
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but I am sure the racists do not want to pay for health care to black people, and the hard core Christians does not want to pay for non-Christians to get better and so on.


abortion is deliberately killing your own baby "cuz you di'int want it". i don't like it because:
1. it is defined as murder
2. it's a get out of jail free card. you should take responsibility for your actions
3. just because you don't see it happen doesn't mean it didn't happen
4. as for rap.e, life isn't fair

i'm against healthcare for more than just allowing abortions...
Sssssnnaakke
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I think abortions should be illegal. Let the person learn their mistake.

Blu3sBr0s
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I think abortions should be illegal. Let the person learn their mistake.


Yeah, I think ruining the lives of intelligent young women because they met a hot guy is a real good idea as well. And you know what else I like? Bringing children into the world under conditions that they aren't fit for.

You know what? Abortions should be covered for say women under ___ age who make less than $__,___ a year. Let the government fill in the empty spots.
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