ForumsWEPRAre we really here?

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AnaLoGMunKy
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Can you trust your senses. Do you really know that what you see, feel and hear are true. Iv read books my whole life relating to this topic. Ones that come to mind are Jonathan Seagull, Illusions and the holographic universe. MageGreyWolf also sent some interesting links on this same subject.

What are your thoughts people.

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Alpha791
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omg this is so dumb if everyhting is a lie how are we typing? are we sittin in a cave peckin our fingers on a rock this is the dumbest forum topic EVER!

AnaLoGMunKy
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omg this is so dumb if everyhting is a lie how are we typing? are we sittin in a cave peckin our fingers on a rock this is the dumbest forum topic EVER


Did you actually think about it. Im questioning your ability to question your world.
MageGrayWolf
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I know I'm real, not to sure about the rest of you though...

AnaLoGMunKy
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I know I like what I feel. I like this keyboard being solid and I like my brain not turning to mush. And I quite like other people being real as well. I guess this perception works pretty well for me.

DirtyCodingHabitz
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we are not real, but in a way we are real

just like economy and money, they aren't real, but they are...

FireflyIV
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As human beings we interpret the world through our physical senses. Either, these are true, and we really are experiencing what there is to experience, or these sensations are simulated, and we are just brains in jars.

Either way, does it matter? Would it affect your behaviour if you knew we were/weren't really here?

AnaLoGMunKy
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Either way, does it matter? Would it affect your behaviour if you knew we were/weren't really here?


As a philosophical question its perhaps the most important, along side the "why are we here" question.

we are just brains in jars.


Lol... Google analogmunky and you will se why I find this amusing. As I am a brain in a jar.
ryonic
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Its really hard to scientifically explain this, but I do think, life can be just a dream. Sure! what if everything was nothing? What if it was just a chess game some random alien is playing? No one can find out the answer to this question. No one will.

DirtyCodingHabitz
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Its really hard to scientifically explain this


It's not explainable just live your life lol
AnaLoGMunKy
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No one can find out the answer to this question. No one will.


But is the prospect of never finding the answer to this a real reason to stop searching. I see so many silly posts about some pointless random stuff, and thats cool because its fun to talk about the pointless random things.

But this is the opposite, and people seem to avoid thinking about it like the plague. I say question your reality, even if it only brings you back where you started with no answer.
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somtimes the way i think of life is like... we all hear and see stuff completley different then others.

i mean COMPLETLY!.
like im typing in english and the symbols that i see make scence and meaning to me.

now. if its coming from YOUR eyes they could be completly different symbols. and i hear english you may hear shilgne.

guys dont hate on this thread. its completly normal to question life and somtimes u just cant prove everything wrong. cause really.... u just dont know.

dont tell me you havnt ever thought like this before. we all have and most likely will all our lives.

Genicidix
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Do we really have to get into details about life and all the functions and how everything works, why are we here, whats the point, why was speech created, why do we have the body parts that we have,...there's a LONG list, on which I would not like to get into.

ryonic
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To make this simple, this is just another question that cannot be explained. But people still use their time to find out the answer even though they know that they can't find out.

Example : A lot people wonders if other life forms are in the space. Such as aliens, other humans, etc. America keeps making space ships and explore more and more. But what did they find? Just 10 planets that orbits a big hot ball?

AnaLoGMunKy
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To make this simple, this is just another question that cannot be explained. But people still use their time to find out the answer even though they know that they can't find out.

Example : A lot people wonders if other life forms are in the space. Such as aliens, other humans, etc. America keeps making space ships and explore more and more. But what did they find? Just 10 planets that orbits a big hot ball?


And Im sure a couple o hundred years ago most people wouldnt have thought we would travel out this planet. The limit of our current knowledge is not neccessarily the limit of what there is to know.

How do you know we cant find out. Thats not the way we got where we are now. You wouldnt be sending electronic impulses from a keyboard to a computer if people were content with just "living life" as they knew it, if they didnt question the fabric of what they were dealing with.

Tis pure folly to stop here, if you dont have the time to put a constuctive thought to the matter, and your only thought is to say "im number 1, why try harder" then perhaps this question is not for you.

But what did they find? Just 10 planets that orbits a big hot ball?


You make it sound so bland, maybe I should believe in god instead, could be more interesting.

Im going to bed to contemplate my very matter. Goodnight.
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There have been some studies in the past few years showing that there is a high probability that this universe is a simulation. This would certainly explain a lot, given the physical anomalies at the quantum level that we have observed.
Perhaps the physical laws of this universe aren't working out the way they should because they're simply being simulated by a computer. Consider playing a video game and looking out onto a lake. You see the water shimmering from the sun's rays. But the computer doesn't actually calculate the angle of the light, each spot in the water for it's rate of refraction and come up with this ridiculous equation for sunlight. It just simulates what shimmering water looks like - close enough to get by.

There are some philosophical consequences to this, however. Notably, what you should do if you expect you're a simulation. If you don't want to be "deleted" maybe you should act as interestingly as possible. This sort of throws morality out the window entirely, though. As well as our thoughts about our own intrinsic nature.

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