ForumsWEPR10-year old refuses to stand for The Pledge Of Allegiance

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dudeguy45
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[url=http://www.arktimes.com/articles/articleviewer.aspx?ArticleID=2f5d7a3b-c72a-446b-8d20-3823aa79c021]


What do you think?

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German3945
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Freedom of Speach.

That's what the Supreme Court thinks.

link fixed. read it before you comment on this thread.

He was doing it for gay rights. and before you comment on his age, it's obvious through what he says in the article that this guy is S-M-R-T.

Green12324
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I stand for the pledge of allegiance, not because I agree with the ideals of any certain administration or lobbyist group, but because in America we are ensured basic rights. The Constitution is America, not the agenda of political parties. I do not believe that America itself is to be blamed for unfair civil rights for certain groups, rather the administrations that have not given them rights.

Phillips has every right to not stand for the pledge, but I disagree that it is the best action to take. He stated that "The freedom to disagree. That's what I think pretty much being an American represents.â In not standing for the pledge, in my mind he is rejecting the freedom to disagree. He should take action to support gay rights, not reject the fundamentals of America.

Green12324
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Sorry, text screwed up when I pasted the quote. The quotation ends with the diamonds with ?s in them.

Snakebite
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I agree with Green. Even though Will feels that homosexuals are being denied freedoms and liberties that everyone else has, I don't think refusing the say the pledge is going to make a difference. To me, that kind of stand is showing you don't support America as your country. I'm probably in thinking this though.

VillageIdiot
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I believe that you don't have to say the pledge but people should at least stand to show basic respect for the county they are living in.

Nurvana
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Didn't Avi write a book about it? Technically, though, It IS a school rule, and if you felt it should be allowed to be sung, which I do, you should take it up with higher law enforcement.

Nurvana
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isnt, not is

stand, not sung

mb

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He may be intelligent, but is more than likely lacking in maturity, foresight, and common sense. He more than likely doesn't realize that he is both disrespecting his country and is not doing anything for gay rights or any rights at all. He's just begging for trouble. There are a million and one ways to effectively protest, and this, quite frankly, is not one of them.

*cough*

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Good for him. Sounds like a smart kid. I think he doesn't understand that not standing for the pledge is a bit too indirect of a way to effectually show support for gay rights, but whatever. I think he's kinda lost in the hysteria of finding something special to show is smarts about, and he doesn't realize that sitting down won't do jack to change is situation.

thisisnotanalt
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The kid has intelligence, but I know from personal experience that there has to be social strength and common sense there for the smarts to matter. This kid sounds like he doesn't understand human social patterns very well.

Thyll
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Well, then again, he's ten. What can he really do? And maybe he's just starting small.
Anyway, I support him. That anthem is about freedom, and he feels that it's hypocritical when some people in the country don't have the freedoms they should. Or maybe he just wants to feel like he's making a difference.
Also, you can't just judge him on his age. He may be 10, but you don't know him, do you? You can't just say he isn't mature because he is young.

dudeguy45
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Yes, homos should leave liberty to "just us".

LethalScout
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When I was in like 3rd grade i used to be messed up by the "One Nation under god" part because first some people are atheists so they are not under god, second not everyone believes in the same god. Then after a year I realized the pledge did not matter to anything and was worthless so I did not care what was in it and murmured it complacently from that day on. Basically a cow turd has more importance than the pledge.

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the kid probly thinks that the pledge says he is free so they cant force he to stand.

Blkasp
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I agree that him not standing won't do anything.
He should at least stand to show respect to his country.

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