Who thinks we all need health care? I mean it may be expensive but canada did it germany did it, and there system works. I hope they pass the health care bill.
I think that the current health care is fine for all but a small few, but if we try to intergrate it with everyone getting equal coverage, then that means limiting some to supply it for others who, even if they got it, still would not contribute to society much, if at all. (Homeless, drug-addicts, alcoholics, mentaly retarted people) It's not the most moral thing in the world, but if you try to support everyone, the cold hard truth is that it has to come down to fit everyone. Public schools are a good example, the standards are so low that it's near impossible to fail if you just show up and fill out the worksheets they give you.
Ugh, we're not trying to make it universal. There's going t0o be a public option that is just that - an option.
I don't see why a public option would be a bad idea - it's worked all across Europe and in Asia. Germany, Britain, Japan, Switzerland, all of them have very effective healthcare systems either run by the government or helped by the government. People who say government-run healthcare doesn't work are ignorant. But at the same time, we have to be careful making the change.
I don't see why a public option would be a bad idea
Because the government can afford to have lower prices because it has more vast resources, therefore they will run every smaller healthcare business out because they cannot compete. This would result in the loss of thousands of jobs. Then the public healthcare would have to care for those thousands of jobless people too.
People who say government-run healthcare doesn't work are ignorant.
I would agree it WORKS, just not as efficiently as what we already have in place.
Ugh, we're not trying to make it universal.
That's what it's going to end up being, like schooling. Only those who can afford private schools can go there, because the public option is so much cheaper. There are still private schools, but they are limited. The only solution I can think of for both is one that we all know the government doesn't want, vouchers. They won't do it for schooling, so they obviously wouldn't do it for healthcare.
People who say government-run healthcare doesn't work are ignorant.
I always think it's great when old people on medicare fiercely oppose *any* type of government health care. They seem to be oblivious to the fact that medicare is ran by the government.
Because the government can afford to have lower prices because it has more vast resources, therefore they will run every smaller healthcare business out because they cannot compete. This would result in the loss of thousands of jobs. Then the public healthcare would have to care for those thousands of jobless people too.
I think healthcare has a different stigma now than schools. Likely as not, healthcare won't be publicized the same way schools are, at least quickly, due to how significant corporate healthcare is.
I would agree it WORKS, just not as efficiently as what we already have in place.
It depends specifically on the government system. Some European or Asian systems work much better than ours, and some don't.
That's what it's going to end up being, like schooling. Only those who can afford private schools can go there, because the public option is so much cheaper. There are still private schools, but they are limited. The only solution I can think of for both is one that we all know the government doesn't want, vouchers. They won't do it for schooling, so they obviously wouldn't do it for healthcare.
It may end up being like that, but it will not be a sudden, catastrophic transformation. Mostly, the people who'll get the public option are the thousands of people with no corporate healthcare. That won't hurt the industry at all.
Why is it that people from the countries with the WONDERFUL healthcare come HERE for their operations? Oh wait, they all have to wait in line as it is rationed out. It doesn't work for if it did they would get taken care of in their own country.
I think that first we must get rid of the assumption that healthcare "works" in other countries. They also have significant problems
This is anecdotal, I know, but I was talking to a kid from Canada who had to wait 13 hours to get treatment for a broken arm. He could have flown to New York and gotten treatment faster.
Our system needs massive redoing, but we have more choices than just our system and the european systems.
[quote]Why is it that people from the countries with the WONDERFUL healthcare come HERE for their operations? Oh wait, they all have to wait in line as it is rationed out. It doesn't work for if it did they would get taken care of in their own country.
I think that first we must get rid of the assumption that healthcare "works" in other countries. They also have significant problems.This is anecdotal, I know, but I was talking to a kid from Canada who had to wait 13 hours to get treatment for a broken arm. He could have flown to New York and gotten treatment faster.
[/quote] Thank you. I think this says it all thisisnotanalt. Even though i'm fairly sure i've said things about rationing before you thought it ludicrous, and you probably still will, there are those problems.
My problem with public healthcare is the increase in taxes that would fund it. Enough taxes come out of my paychecks as it is, and I'm still in a low tax bracket.
If the US were to adopt public healthcare, I hope they could find a way to fund it without taking money out of my pocket to do so. I am healthy and I take care of myself. I should not have to pay for a healthcare system that takes care of my neighbor who suffers a heart attack due to eating too much fatty foods and doesn't exercise.
No, I'm very against rationing - I just think that a public option for health INSURANCE isn't a bad idea.
Also, the USA has lots of high-quality private surgeons who came here to make big money. That's why lots of people come here for surgeries.
All I'm saying is that public healthcare isn't a bad thing if executed correctly, and that an option would be good for those ho don't have health insurance now.
public healthcare isn't a bad thing if executed correctly
Health insurance is out there for anyone to purchase, but is highly regulated by the government. Government regulation leads to higher prices for insurance than it would be if it were allowed to reach economic equilibrium. In a free, unregulated market, both producers and consumers come out on top.
Health insurance is out there for anyone to purchase, but is highly regulated by the government. Government regulation leads to higher prices for insurance than it would be if it were allowed to reach economic equilibrium. In a free, unregulated market, both producers and consumers come out on top.
And it's fairly efficient now. But if there's a public option for insurance, more people will be covered. End of story. Having a government option works as a fallback for people who can't afford privatized healthcare, and it shouldn't be a problem if it's run efficiently.
The words efficient and government never belong in the same sentance unless accompanied by the word not.
15% of Americans don't have health insurance and that is not a reason to screw over the 85% that do. Nationalization of any company is an awful thing to do in my opinion. If a company goes under, let it. Capitalism has been twisted into something it was never meant to be.
