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whyismynametom
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I hear all this talking about "GAYS" and it seems anyone who doesn't like it is considered a "hater" of the gays. I find the "lifestyle" of gays to be disgusting. This is my opinion, am i not in-tilted to it? I'm merely saying it is disgusting not that gays are "bad" nor that they aren't equal to everyone else, merely that i find it disgusting. Why do so many feel that I'm not entitled to my opinion merely because it isn't what they themselves think? I find sexual fetishes that involve children, piercing of skin, all those weird things to be disgusting including gays. I do not hate gays. Why do people feel they need to condemn me for this thought?

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whyismynametom
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Ok i'm finally back, i think you guys really are missing my point here
I think the nature of having gay sex is disgusting, not any of those other things that are associated with gays. When i say "gays are gross" I'm instantly condemned as a gay hater bec. i don't "accept" them or I'm not "tolerant" of gays. I feel like people are forced to be acceptance of peoples "lifestyles" of all natures. Why am i considered a "gay hater" bec. i don't think gay sex is normal nor in any manner humane. I think it is down right nasty. But that is my opinion and I'm entitled to it. All those other things about why i think so, its because it seems so "unnatural" to me. Sexual organs where made for the opposite sex, i don't think anyone would disagree with me on that, hence why humans can't asexual reproduce.
that is why i think that way, but why are people so quick to condemn me bec. I'm not tolerant of "everyone's" sexual preferences.

Zophia
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I think the nature of having gay sex is disgusting, not any of those other things that are associated with gays
Ah, but see, you said "lifestyle", which really isn't all that specific.

When i say "gays are gross" I'm instantly condemned as a gay hater bec. i don't "accept" them or I'm not "tolerant" of gays. I feel like people are forced to be acceptance of peoples "lifestyles" of all natures. Why am i considered a "gay hater" bec. i don't think gay sex is normal nor in any manner humane. I think it is down right nasty.

Any chance I can get you to reread the post I made on the first page of this thread? It's the way you express yourself.

You sound like a hater. You sound intolerant, maybe you don't mean to, but your choice of words... "You're not normal." "You're doing unnatural things." "You're gross." "I think what you're doing is disgusting."
What would your reaction be if people said these things to you because of something that is perfectly normal for you? How would you perceive those opinions? Disrespectful? Hateful, by any chance?

Sure, you're entitled to your views. Remember to listen to other people's views as well. Do you think it's okay that others disagree with your views?
I respect your right to disagree with my views, but if we ever debated this I'd hope you'd at least listen to arguments and not just stand firmly in your beliefs because you're entitled to them.

that is why i think that way, but why are people so quick to condemn me bec. I'm not tolerant of "everyone's" sexual preferences.
Possibly because it's "in" to be openminded.
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Yes, your choice of words should be rearran--actually, your choice of words should be wiped clean and have better phrases added. You're free to say your opinion that you don't agree with homosexuals or what you think they do is nasty, but never. never. EVER. Say that homosexuality is immoral or wrong. You will get a LOT of people on your bad side.

whyismynametom
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Say that homosexuality is immoral or wrong. You will get a LOT of people on your bad side.

this is what i mean, if i think it is wrong why do people feel it as their duty to "show" me that it is right, i have an open mind, there is nothing you can say to me along the lines of simply, your intolerant, or ignorant blah blah blah. Still that isn't an argument, why are gays right, because there human beings? no, that's not a reason bec. murderers are considered bad and they are human beings to. Why is it ok to be gay? If your gay i'm not harassing you in public, i'm not telling you to go die, no, i'm just keeping my opinions expressed in simply I THINK BEING GAY IS WRONG. it ends there, i'm not taking rights away from gays, nothing to harm the gay community at all. But people will think i am regardless.
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Still that isn't an argument, why are gays right, because there human beings?

Because the bible and people not affected by it should not decide that its wrong.

no, that's not a reason bec. murderers are considered bad and they are human beings to.
Murderers tend to permanently harm unwilling participants.

Why is it ok to be gay?

Because both parties take pleasure in it while not hurting others, otherwise its rape, and rape is not restricted to gays.
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I THINK BEING GAY IS WRONG. it ends there,


If that's truly how you feel about something, really, anything then I'm all for it. The problem is when people try to force their beliefs on others. When you say that you think it's wrong, I immediately assumed that, say, if gay rights legislation came for a vote, that you would vote against it.

But you say:
i'm not taking rights away from gays, nothing to harm the gay community at all

So that must not be the case. But it's hard for most people to have opinions and not do anything at all with them. If you would seriously vote for gay rights, then you are more than entitled to your opinion.

But people will think i am regardless.

People assume, like I did, that those who oppose what gays do will oppose anything they're trying to do. If an opinion is just an opinion, then nobody will necessarily feel that threatened. But if your opinion represents your political agenda, or potential behavior, then people are going to try to change your mind.
whyismynametom
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This is just that, i would fight for Gay rights to an extent, but if i say I think gays are disgusting and their sexual choices are wrong but they still serve in the military i will be met with harsh criticism even though i support their rights, i support rights of people who harass others online but still think what they are doing is wrong. I hate when those who think gays are normal try to force their ideas onto me, leave me the F alone, you have no more of a right than i do to harass me and simply think i'm intolerant.

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What reason could you possibly have to tell someone you think gay sex is disgusting? Really, unless you have gay sex or have had it you have no real reason to say something like that.

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It`s actually the way the OP says it. For example, he states he finds it disgusting, yet does not know why others disagree with him, or claim him to be a hater, yet, most people can flip the script and ask the same about him. Why does he not agree with them and whatnot...

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I get so sick and tired of homophobic dickheads whining about people ''condemning them for their beliefs''. The amount of sh*t you have to take as a homophobe is insignificant to the amount of sh*t gays take on a daily basis so man up about it.

nonconformist
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Oh yes, 'cause no straight guy has ever stuck his wang into the butt of his girlfriend. Or at least that is totally not the same thing.
... Seriously?


well actually.... no its still gross. Fingers are also a no no, cuz they would smell very bad.. (supposedly a pinky stimulates pleasure thow, havent tried it yet). Like i said i still think anal sex of any kind is gross, which is why i say negatory to doing it.

The people thow are always awesome to hang around thow.. whether or not you think it, they can actually be really nice, caring people. And always have your back. So i dont have a problem with gays, i have a problem with anal. I guess that would be bout it.

whyismynametom
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It`s actually the way the OP says it. For example, he states he finds it disgusting, yet does not know why others disagree with him, or claim him to be a hater, yet, most people can flip the script and ask the same about him. Why does he not agree with them and whatnot...

see it is not so much im like "why don't others agree with me" mainly i don't care what others think, AS LONG AS they don't condemn me for my beliefs and here is a prime example------

I get so sick and tired of homophobic dickheads whining about people ''condemning them for their beliefs''. The amount of sh*t you have to take as a homophobe is insignificant to the amount of sh*t gays take on a daily basis so man up about it.


basically why is it bad to be a homophone at all? that is a bad thing, it is bad im afraid of spending a night over at a gay guys house? The dark can't hurt you and people are afraid of that, but they don't get harassed for it.
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Heres me in the eyes of a kid in my grade:

(I'll use 'I'm, I, etc' to refer to me, to avoid confusion)

I'm German - Automacticaly makes me a Nazi. -_-

I'm Republican - Automacticaly makes me a poor hater.

I'm Conservative - Automacticaly makes me a Socialist/Communist.

I'm Pro-Life - Automacticaly makes me a life-hater. (I honestly don't get this one, I mean, Really?)

And, I'm Christian - Automacticaly makes me a narrowminded SOB.

Not really related, but to the OP, my advice is to just ignore it, and anyways, if people are spending time to think up insults/things against you, it means your on to something.

But they are entitled to their own opinion, although in my case, its near Unjust-Discrimination/Discrimination without Cause.

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