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We brought this issue up in my government class. Many people, in my class at least, believe that creating life, is something that should be left in the hands of god. I personally think that there is nothing wrong with it, as long as the clones are fully functioning normal members of society. On the same token if we find some way transfer a brain from the body of one clone to another we could cure a cure for many terminal illnesses, as the persons consciousness is simply transferred.
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I don't think an argument could be made for cloning's being moral. I mean, if something is moral, that means you ought to do it, no? On the other hand, it seems we could argue that it's immoral - that we ought not do it - on some level.
I don't know what to make of this. There are certainly some clear and tangible benefits to human cloning, but I wouldn't want the clones to be anything more than a sack of meat in case I need an organ or something.
We currently don't have the ability to clone ones mind. A clone would be a separate individual but just with identical DNA.
Here I am assuming that a majority of intelligence comes from the DNA. Such as cloning Albert Einstein.
Transferring consciousness is a long way off and would require far more research going beyond just cloning, but if we could develop "blanks" we could do just as Maverick5762 said. But this raises a number of problem that go beyond that of just moral issues. Besides overpopulation there is the question of who would get such a treatment? Would you want a hierarchy of the rich elite few living for as long as they want? Maybe a malevolent tyrants of a country could have an extra few thousand years or more to rule?
Unfortunately, that may be the case. Though I assume a quick bullet could end them, unless they have extremal loyal followers and knoll of there exact mental chemicals. Taking over the plant, witch would be hard to hide, would end them if all else fails.
Cloning is not immoral, ignore all religious arguements. However, this idea of extended life and the transfering of conciousness is wrong. Death is a natural part of life and so much be obeyed. "He who seeks life shall find his road built on blood"
But the problem is that eventually it would go there, then as MGW said you would have the upper echelons of society with members that have been living for hundreds of years. I personally think that at some point I would just get sick of life...
But the problem is that eventually it would go there, then as MGW said you would have the upper echelons of society with members that have been living for hundreds of years. I personally think that at some point I would just get sick of life...
As I said a good bullet would end them, unless they somehow can recreate there brain completely. If they hide, then there eternal life is rather pointless and no one should care. If they do something bad, a good sniper will fix them.
What's one of your constitutional right, Trial by a jury of impartial peers. The second, we put a bullet in their skulls, people would be screaming there heads off.
Like I think I said, if they live a harmless or beneficial life then why would you care if they lived?
Second, it never states that they have to be present. The court could decide before the assassination, probably in secret, witch would prevent running and prevent bribes/threats.
Third, this would only be likely for the richest or most powerful. It would be likely if your country wanted them dead that it would be an act of war, not needing a jury.
I don't think it's a good idea to clone humans, we are already near earths caring capacity. Cloning recorces sounds like a good idea.
You can't create something for nothing, to create more resources we would use up resources so it would be something akin to a pointless endeavor.
Not at all. Example: Creating cows out of chemicals. Something useless, chemicals, becomes something useful, food.
Indeed. What if we could clone anything? We wouldn't have to worry about it.
But the chemicals are being used, so you have resource being transformed into a different resource. If we could clone anything, our economy would go down the drain.
But the chemicals are being used, so you have resource being transformed into a different resource. If we could clone anything, our economy would go down the drain.
Wouldn't it just be like mass-producing items?
However, this idea of extended life and the transfering of conciousness is wrong. Death is a natural part of life and so much be obeyed.
Well our bodies already naturally go through a process of dying and having new cells take the place of the old. The problem is this process eventually burns itself out. This is also a problem with cloning is the clones will continue this process on right where it left off in the original. So if you clone an 80 year old the baby clone will have the same life span on a cellular level of that 80 year old. If we could find a way to over come this problem, we could defiantly carry on almost indefinitely.
As I said a good bullet would end them, unless they somehow can recreate there brain completely.
This bullet solution would create quite a vicious cycle of violence, and I think we already have enough of those cycles already.
As for recreating the brain this would be possible, The person could theoretically create a back up of there consciousness and memories in a computer that could then be downloaded into a new clone body. This would be very possible if we were at the point of being able to transfer ourselves from one body to another.
I don't think it's a good idea to clone humans, we are already near earths caring capacity. Cloning recorces sounds like a good idea.
One solution for this problem would be to expand into space. Life has expended into new previously uninhabited and previously uninhabitable areas since it began. Our ability to manipulate our environment may just prove to be the necessary jump for the survival of life from this planet. Given how much space there is to move into it almost makes the problem of overpopulation moot.
Wouldn't it just be like mass-producing items?
Alright all of a sudden, people start mass producing diamonds, there go the diamond prices, then someone decides lets get some money in there too, all of a sudden one person has more money than anyone else in the world, little by little (if he's smart) that money goes into the economy and the value of the currency drops. I think you can figure out the rest.
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