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Kyouzou
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We brought this issue up in my government class. Many people, in my class at least, believe that creating life, is something that should be left in the hands of god. I personally think that there is nothing wrong with it, as long as the clones are fully functioning normal members of society. On the same token if we find some way transfer a brain from the body of one clone to another we could cure a cure for many terminal illnesses, as the persons consciousness is simply transferred.

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thoadthetoad
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It just seems more and more like arguments that must assume God's existence keep getting in the way of human progress.

^ the reason why America sucks.

And why I don't have a cat-raccoon-zombie-fly to ride on to school each day :c
thepossum
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may be late in adding this, but in most animal tests, there are large numbers of defects in cloned animals,


Indeed. And that is one of the reasons besides God that cloning people is a bad idea.
314d1
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Indeed. And that is one of the reasons besides God that cloning people is a bad idea.


If we never try, then it will never happen. If we try then we will be able to advance it to the point were it is feasible to use.
thepossum
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By your own arguments, humans are the same as animals. Therefore, why would our results be any different?

314d1
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Of course not. Human are animals, not the same but human are in the kingdom of the animals...

It won't be any different, but this is about cloning in general. We need to keep cloning and researching cloning to be able to clone successfully.

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cloneing might one day be the answer to alot of things

Graham
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may be late in adding this, but in most animal tests, there are large numbers of defects in cloned animals,
[quote]Indeed. And that is one of the reasons besides God that cloning people is a bad idea.
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The first cars weren't 30mpg. The first gun was a firework. Computers used to have each byte be a long copper wire in a tube.

You build on your findings to improve it.
Moe
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Well, early cars did get near 30mpg, with the Ford Model T at 25 mpg and some cars passed 40mpg. But that didn't last long.

Anyways, back to cloning. I have no problem with cloning, as long as we don't clone humans until cloning becomes reliable. The current success rate for cloning is so small it can take thousands of attempts before one clone is made. And the clones that are made often have defects and don't live all that long.

314d1
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As long as they are cloning animals I'm fine with it. but only for a scientific reason, Humans, I think its wrong.


Human are animals, and care to explain why?

i don't think that it is a matter of being moral or immoral, but the matter of being useful or useless, and i think that cloning is useless


I think I have already explained there use in food, labor, and intelligence?
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I'd like to revise my earlier statement on cloning. If we are cloning humans for medical purposes or something just as important then it is fine. But if we clone humans simply because we can or as some sort of fashion or status symbol - then that is wrong.

thepossum
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I don't believe in cloning entire humans just for medical purposes. Cloning only organs however, is perfectly fine for medical purposes. I find nothing wrong with cloning in general.

IcyGryphon
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That new movie Splice has something to do with this.

fritomaster
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I think if we cloned entire humans it would be wrong unless they were mindless and the all persons organs are all failing at once. Since neither of these probably will happen cloning a entire person is useless. But cloning individual organs is okay. There might even be large basements under hospitals that have cloned organs.

Johnnathann
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I don't see any reason to clone a human........

Kyouzou
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Medical studies, soldiers, workers, explorers. I have a feeling that if we started cloning they would autmatically made to do the most dangerous jobs there are, essensetially being treated like second class citizens.

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