I was reading over some arguments, when I saw some things that went against usual Christian logic. Apparently, against popular beliefs, you do not need to be a Christian to go to Christian heaven. This is just one example of ignorance about your own religion. So, I ask, do you theist know everything, or at least the fundamentals, of your religion? If you do not, how can you justify fully devoting yourself to said religion?
Sorry, I'm getting tired of the "most respect Christian" on here because he ignores any evidence, takes what I say out of context, and makes things up. He also changes the subject when I am trying to explain things.
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This brings up really good points. I have always been curious about that passage in the Bible that says only a few hundred thousand souls will enter the kingdom of heaven. That's it.
I'm going to assume your talking about the passage in Revelation.
So if you are it is talking specifically about those who were previously Jewish but have converted to Christianity during the Tribulation. The number is 144,000 and can either be taken as a specific number or as simply meaning a large amount (remember the Jewish affection for symbolism through numbers).
So, why 144,000? Is that an absolutely correct translation? Is there some specific symbolism in this number? It just seems an odd number. (Even though it's even)
1. Really? No one knows who they are? Why do you say this 2. And yes, the things I believe in, I actually read about and understand....... I have my reasons for "believing in them" 3. You obviously haven't read everything on here, or you are too thick to really get it, so I don't really care much for your opinion on the matter. 4. Like I said, I got tired of addressing his ridiculous and silly claims, so now I just don't even bother and I just defamed him, like you said.
1. I say this because we as humans are simply too complex to fully understand. 2. You can understand something, but there is always a limit to that understanding. 3. I did read everything, whether you care for my opinions or not doesn't matter, if I think you're wrong I have the pleassure of telling you so. 4. The point is to debate, not to "grow tired" and start defaming people. Also you can think what you like about Samy's beliefs, but have the respect to provide a suitable counter arguement, one grounded in fact, not personal opinion.
144,000 is not a random number. It's the square of 12 x 1000. The number 12 is extremely important in many religions. In ancient Greece there were 12 Olympian gods, Odin had 12 sons, the tribes of Israel were 12, the apostles were 12, In Shi'a Islam, there are twelve Imams and In Hinduism, the sun god Surya has 12 names. For some reason 12 is a fascinating number, so almost every religion uses it.
1. I say this because we as humans are simply too complex to fully understand. 2. You can understand something, but there is always a limit to that understanding. 3. I did read everything, whether you care for my opinions or not doesn't matter, if I think you're wrong I have the pleassure of telling you so. 4. The point is to debate, not to "grow tired" and start defaming people. Also you can think what you like about Samy's beliefs, but have the respect to provide a suitable counter arguement, one grounded in fact, not personal opinion.
1. I don't agree. There have been many scientific breakthroughs and discoveries about how humans work and why things happen. You should keep up with science, it really helps in these matters. 2. Okay well this can be true. I forget what started this matter, though. 3. Ok 4. Please. All I had done up until a page or two ago that's all I did. Provide arguments with actual fact. He's the one making up stuff from personal opinion.
1. I say this because we as humans are simply too complex to fully understand. 2. You can understand something, but there is always a limit to that understanding. 3. I did read everything, whether you care for my opinions or not doesn't matter, if I think you're wrong I have the pleassure of telling you so. 4. The point is to debate, not to "grow tired" and start defaming people. Also you can think what you like about Samy's beliefs, but have the respect to provide a suitable counter arguement, one grounded in fact, not personal opinion.
1. I don't agree. There have been many scientific breakthroughs and discoveries about how humans work and why things happen. You should keep up with science, it really helps in these matters. 2. Okay well this can be true. I forget what started this matter, though. 3. Ok 4. Please. All I had done up until a page or two ago that's all I did. Provide arguments with actual fact. He's the one making up stuff from personal opinion.
1. I don't agree. There have been many scientific breakthroughs and discoveries about how humans work and why things happen. You should keep up with science, it really helps in these matters. 2. Okay well this can be true. I forget what started this matter, though. 3. Ok 4. Please. All I had done up until a page or two ago that's all I did. Provide arguments with actual fact. He's the one making up stuff from personal opinion.
Humans are to complex psychologically and emotionally. I'm speaking in metaphysics here. You're too literal.
Many people perhaps know the modern aspects of their religion, but not the history of it. They don't see the parallels of their religion with the ones that came before them. Each of the Abrahamic religions can be tied in with others through dates of festivals, beliefs about what can and can't be eaten...
Science is not a religion, it is not a system of belief, and it is not something to base your life off of; with that said it's important to note that humans aren't something that can necessarily be understood, we may know the functions of the brain (which of course we do not) but we will never completely know how humans make decisions or how we really think.
