The so called "Evil" antagonist of the Bible. The question comes to this: Why is he the evil one? He killed a mere ten people in the Bible, possibly more to around fifty at most, while God, the supposed good one, killed billions. The only "negative" thing he did was rebel against god, but it was a just rebel. Who would want to live under that tyrant?
So the question comes down to: Why do Christians think Satan is evil?
If you would read on just a few more verses, however, you would find that they immediately begged forgiveness and God sent an army to liberate them.
Yes, but AFTER god terrorized them into begging for forgiveness. Again, hypocritical of an all loving being. Allow me to demonstrate with a small script.
Children: Haha baldy! Prophet: I smite thee in the name of the Lord! God: (off stage) Send in the bears!
(Bears enter stage right. They begin to attack children)
Children: AH! We're sorry! We believe in you God! God: (off stage) send in the army!
(Army enters and fights bears)
God: Now kids, I sent those bears to teach you a lesson and possibly kill you. But remember, I love you.
Yes, but AFTER god terrorized them into begging for forgiveness. Again, hypocritical of an all loving being. Allow me to demonstrate with a small script.
Children: Haha baldy! Prophet: I smite thee in the name of the Lord! God: (off stage) Send in the bears!
(Bears enter stage right. They begin to attack children)
Children: AH! We're sorry! We believe in you God! God: (off stage) send in the army!
(Army enters and fights bears)
God: Now kids, I sent those bears to teach you a lesson and possibly kill you. But remember, I love you.
THE END
The bears and the army had nothing to so with each other, you need to read my posts closer. But for both, let me demonstrate:
Satan: I'll corrupt these children! Children: BLAAARGH! Stupid prophet! Prophet: I'll send a bear to beat the Satan out of these kids! *beats kids* *kids don't feel a thing* * aren't injured afterwards*
Jews: GOD SUCKS! God: I must punish you for that *enslaves* Jews: Oh no we're sorry! God: *saves*
This, is called HYPOCRISY! God gave people free will and if they choose to use it he punishes them.
Also, your view on Satan is...well wrong. Allow me to get my earlier post.
Interesting history lesson. It wasn't until the New Testament that Lucifer was considered a villan. In fact the Old Testament respects Lucifer and does not consider him to be evil. In fact, Lucifer himself is unwilling to do harm to those who walk the earth. In Job God must force Lucifer into the position, wherein God then turns it around and tells Lucifer that He, God, was forced by Lucifer to hurt Job, when in fact, the opposite is true. (Side note God gave Lucifer the power to hurt Job). It was until the New Testament that people started hating Lucifer. Why? Well during the time it was writen Christians were under the influence from several outside creeds. Many of these creeds had an advesary to combat their god or gods. In order for Christianity to "fit in" so to speak they took a respected figure of their past and turned him into what we consider Lucifer today. Evil
And voila. The history of Satan explained by someone who has spent a long time studying history within the Roman Era
Cinna, that link was a bunch of bull. It stated that Satan was the one who did it, using that as an excuse, witch was false. It is using LIES to try and get you on there side...
And according to you we should sick bares on everyone who gives a simple insult.
Here is how it really went down..
Jews:Wow... We need food, water, and clothing... GOD: QUIT COMPLAINING! I WILL SELL YOU TO THE NEAREST KINGDOM! Jews: Wow this slavery stuff is hard, can you get us out? GOD: Sure *genocides people* Jews: Yay we are free!
And repeat, most of judges is basically like that.
Cinna, that link was a bunch of bull. It stated that Satan was the one who did it, using that as an excuse, witch was false. It is using LIES to try and get you on there side...
If you aren't religious, then you cannot define a church's standing on an issue. That is how it went down, and no BSing is going to change it. Just calm down man.
Jews:Wow... We need food, water, and clothing... GOD: QUIT COMPLAINING! I WILL SELL YOU TO THE NEAREST KINGDOM! Jews: Wow this slavery stuff is hard, can you get us out? GOD: Sure *genocides people* Jews: Yay we are free!
Again. This whole thread has turned into a few non believers making up stuff and deciding it's the church's stance.
Wolf, show me how Lucifer is respected in the Old Testament.
If you aren't religious, then you cannot define a church's standing on an issue. That is how it went down, and no BSing is going to change it. Just calm down man.
The churches stance does not matter. Satan had nothing to do with it. Current day believers are trying to justify it with current day beliefs- that Satan is evil. He was not evil until the New testament decided they needed an antagonist. He mauled the children for telling him to go away and making fun of his bald head, as children do.
[quote]The churches stance does not matter. Satan had nothing to do with it. Current day believers are trying to justify it with current day beliefs- that Satan is evil. He was not evil until the New testament decided they needed an antagonist. He mauled the children for telling him to go away and making fun of his bald head, as children do.[/quote The church's stance on an issue of its own religion does not matter? Explain that to me. I'm sorry, but you are false and being quite close minded, as I am right and you are wrong. As if you tried to tell me my right hand was gone, yet continued to insist upon it.
The church's stance on an issue of its own religion does not matter? Explain that to me. I'm sorry, but you are false and being quite close minded, as I am right and you are wrong. As if you tried to tell me my right hand was gone, yet continued to insist upon it.
Nope, in this day and age every church, every person, thinks something different about there religion. Some churches now a days believe homosexuals should be killed, as it is in the Bible, but as mentioned some churches do not. That is one example on every church being different..
You are the closed minded one... "As I am right and you are wrong"? That is the most closed minded statement on this thread. You come on things with preconceived notions. You didn't even know about the bear attack until I posted the verses. If I posted something from the Quran, and told you it was from the Bible, you would have reacted the same way and defended it. If I took something from the Bible and told you it was from the Quran, you would agree that it was cruel. It is because you are closed minded...
Well then it looks like you're former religious, not religious
My arguements still hold water because I understand how the church works . Oh and I've studies history which is a major influence in religion and world events.