It is my opinion that they should be able to do anything that straight people can do. The fact that we are restricting them from getting married reminds me to much of the restrictions we placed upon women and blacks which most people would agree were terrible. I would also like to point out that I am not gay, I just believe in the freedom of the people. Feel free to post the opposing side of this as always.
I have always wondered why some of my gay and lesbian friends have held on to such strong religious backgrounds, when they have either been shunned or had bad experiences.
In a sense, it's like a Jew wanting to be a part of a neo-nazi group. WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO!? You do not need a building full of people to worship your god.
Sorry but I'm going to have to ignore the talk about religion and how God looks upon homosexuals and all that blah blah blah.
Why is it that animals are allowed to have gay sex when humans aren't? There are a few reasons. Animals don't have souls. Humans are smart enough to know of God who looks down on it. Humans are the only animals who shouldn't do it.
Anyway.
I don't care if it makes sense or not, because how valid such accusations are does not play a part in deciding if homosexuals should or should not get married in church. We shouldn't force religions to wed homosexuals, but we should at least force the government to wed homosexuals. That's my stance on the issue. That way each religious group can run things their own way while homosexuals can get married, even if they must settle for a marriage that is not religious. Chances are, however, that there will be religious groups of many different kinds willing to marry homosexuals.
As for those who hold strong religious backgrounds. I can only assume that they wish to remain religious and will put up with other people's ignorance as long as they know God is watching over them. It may or may not make sense, but that's how they think. I don't know why they would belong to a specific organization that shuns their sexuality, but it could possibly be their way of trying to show the world that they are as able to worship God as anyone else.
Asherlee, if you ever find out why your friends continue to hold such strong religious beliefs, despite them being shunned, I would be interested in hearing what they say rather than me going merely by my own assumptions.
I don't care if it makes sense or not, because how valid such accusations are does not play a part in deciding if homosexuals should or should not get married in church. We shouldn't force religions to wed homosexuals, but we should at least force the government to wed homosexuals. That's my stance on the issue. That way each religious group can run things their own way while homosexuals can get married, even if they must settle for a marriage that is not religious. Chances are, however, that there will be religious groups of many different kinds willing to marry homosexuals.
I agree, this goes along with the separation of church and state. While we might not like it, if we want the two to be separate entities we would have to except it.
Asherlee, if you ever find out why your friends continue to hold such strong religious beliefs, despite them being shunned, I would be interested in hearing what they say rather than me going merely by my own assumptions.
I would be rather interested in hearing this as well. I don't think I have ever heard someones reasoning on this matter before.
When something is not wholly accepted by the majority, it is not suitable to write it in the law. Therefore, it is not suitable to make gay marriage legal (or illegal). And yes, it is not yet wholly accepted by the majority, despite the religion.
When something is not wholly accepted by the majority, it is not suitable to write it in the law. Therefore, it is not suitable to make gay marriage legal (or illegal). And yes, it is not yet wholly accepted by the majority, despite the religion.
Oh, kind of like California right? They had gay marriage and then got rid of it, way to go team! (Note sarcasm)
What I don't understand about America is why the states have the power decide if gay marriage should be legal or not. Shouldn't it be up to the Feds? Here in Canada the federal government passed the law and it was nation wide.
I think they should just pass a law that allowed it because if you look back at our history, so many things were not allowed and then after some kind of big event(boycott, petition, rebellion, etc) they were accepted.
they let women vote and ended slavery, maybe they can do the same for homosexuals
Well Mr.Walker, don't take this the wrong way but...the religious aren't exactly fond of homosexuals, surely you know this. I mean, a great majority of those that oppose gay marriage are the religious. Having them get married the Christian way would be against their religion and they will feel insulted. Trust me; I know how these guys are; I used to be one.
I'm well aware of that, I used to be a very devout Christian myself. However obviously the religious would be torn here. Do they deny the use of the Church to be married in, and violate the commandments to love their neighbor, or do they allow it even though it's considered a sin?
Really what they need to consider is this: If they stop it, then they are committing a sin themselves by behaving in a dishonorable fashion toward a fellow member of their faith, but if they let it happen then they are committing no personal sin, whether they believe that it's wrong or not. Better to not sin yourself and leave them be wouldn't you think?
Why is it that animals are allowed to have gay sex when humans aren't? There are a few reasons. Animals don't have souls. Humans are smart enough to know of God who looks down on it. Humans are the only animals who shouldn't do it.
And what is a soul? Where is it and why don't animals have it? And if it's so horrible then why would animals even have the desire to have same sex intercourse? Wouldn't it stand to reason that if only humans shouldn't do it, and God dislikes it, that humans would be the only animal with the desire?
What I don't understand about America is why the states have the power decide if gay marriage should be legal or not. Shouldn't it be up to the Feds?
Because our Constitution states that any provision not provided by the Constitution or any subsequent amendments falls on the states to determine for themselves. Since there is no amendment to the Constitution regarding marriage then it falls on the state to determine what they will or will not recognize.
It was there decision to be a homosexual.
Just like it's your 'decision' to be straight. Well then I challenge you to 'decide' to be homosexual. I want you to choose to find members of the same sex attractive and create in yourself a desire to have intercourse with them. Why don't you try it out, after all it's just a decision. You can always change your mind again.
I think some of them aren't on decision. It may be genetically hardwired into their hormonal brain. And some people I know have had family that seemed to inherit this trait. A niece got it from the uncle possibly. Don't bash on gay people please, some of them can be the nicest people you know.
I think some of them aren't on decision. It may be genetically hardwired into their hormonal brain. And some people I know have had family that seemed to inherit this trait. A niece got it from the uncle possibly. Don't bash on gay people please, some of them can be the nicest people you know.
The likely cause of it is not something that would be genetically handed down.
The likely cause of it is not something that would be genetically handed down.
I remember a program that talked about homosexuallity in penguins and that two male partners had advantages over the hetro couple. I dont remember the context but I would say it is a genetic thing. I think most people are bisexual and its been repressed by our recent society, not saying this is good or bad tho. All our ancestors were at it with anything that had a pulse. In fact the more we study the more we find homosexual behaviour in more and more animal species. I can only think of this as genetic. Not sure if it really is passed to children but still, I can only think of it as being so.
Why is it that animals are allowed to have gay sex when humans aren't?
Because the other animals don't have regulations against it, nor are smart enough to do so, Smarty. We have regulations against this because people like you chose to restrict it. We are all animals, through and through, just smart enough to have ethics. Even those that are quite silly.
[quote]Why is it that animals are allowed to have gay sex when humans aren't? Actually, animals that are gay are proven to have genetic disorders and therefore its not a normal thing that happens all the time. I also heard that in Africa, gay camels are killed. And at last, humans are not animals, I mean sharks are allowed to eat humans, why can't we? Don't be ridiculous.
