Sorry for writing a book. Read it all. I don't care how repetitive it becomes.
There needs to be black solidarity before blacks can even hope of integrating properly into white society.
No offense, but this is bullshit. I forgot the organization but it pushed the views of all African American politicians. You shouldn't push someone's views simply because the person is black, you should push them because you agree with what they are saying. It's like saying "We don't care what his views are, as long as he's black."
white society
Blacks will never be a part of white society. I'm not even a part of white society. Society in general, on the other hand, we can all become a part of. Of course, I understand we are using white society in two different ways. You are using white society as if society still revolves around white people and I'm using white society as any group that remains whites only.
To put it simply, you can't segregate whites and blacks while preaching togetherness. If we give blacks everything they want simply because they want recognized, then we aren't giving them equality, but an advantage based on race.
Because its useless telling some black kid growing up on a council estate ''look how successful this middle class white guy who is, who went to a private school and had all the advantages in life''.
Oh, so you would rather call him a proud n*gger who shouldn't trust the white man?
Whats needed are black role models who had to climb the greasy pole to get to where they are today.
Blacks? Why
the fuck do they
have to be black? All you're doing is pushing this belief that whites are
not suitable role models.
Because its useless telling some black kid growing up on a council estate ''look how successful this middle class white guy who is, who went to a private school and had all the advantages in life''
See, you pretty much said it yourself. It's useless telling a black kid to have a white model.
Thats because skin colour clearly does have an affect on your social position in life.
Skin color plays a role, but behavior plays an even bigger role. Yes, blacks may have to work harder to get a position in a job, but rather than talk about inequality, they should work harder to prove that they are more abled than anyone around them. This is the only way to successfully attack racism.
So the only way out of poverty for blakc is to look up to white people? I dont think so.
Right now you are probably very pissed off at me for what I have said. Clear your mind and understand this.
There are few middle class blacks for lower class blacks to look up to. Lower class blacks want to become middle class. Don't you think they should look up to the middle class as role models? If there's a black family that is middle class, go ahead and look up to them, but if you don't know a middle class black family, why
not look up to a middle class family?
You want to be middle class, but you will only look up to middle class blacks. If skin color isn't important, then why the hell do they have to be black? But you aren't arguing that skin color is important, you are arguing that skin color is everything. However, if skin color is everything, then you need to come out and explain once and for all why you're racist.
If you want to be a musician, you look up to a musician. If you want to be a teacher, you look up to a teacher. If you want to be middle class, you look up to the middle class. What's the difference between middle class whites and middle class blacks?
You keep assuming that blacks should only look up to blacks because they are different than whites. You know what? If you want to talk about how different blacks are from whites, maybe we
should treat blacks and whites differently, but because I'm white, don't think I will support the black community. If we must treat each other different, I'll choose my own color over yours.
But I don't want to separate blacks and whites. I believe whites and blacks are equals. I believe that anything a white person is capable of, a black person is capable of, and vice versa.
I'm not a musician, but if I was, I would look up to many different guitarists for inspiration, including Jimi Hendrix. I don't give a rat's ass that he was black, he was a master at guitar. I also like Clapton, not because he's white, but because he is a God at guitar.
That's what you should do, look at the accomplishments and skills of others. In war, you must learn to idolize your enemy so that you may accept and learn the tactics they use against you, allowing you to rise above them.
Blacks who are middle class, who do you think the look up to as models? Do you think they look up to Ganster Rappers who bitch about inequality or do you think they look up to other successful people (skin color not included).
It doesnt matter who you look up to. However kids in poverty arent going to look at white people who had all the advantages in life, and say 'i can relate to that, hes my role model'. They look up to people they can relate to, who went through the same stuff they did.
This is why blacks who live in poverty often stay in poverty. This is why they idolize gangsters and other fuckers. Often, these blacks spit at other blacks who are different than themselves. They spit at blacks who are middle class because the middle class blacks generally accept whites and other racists as equals.
If you want to teach these kids anything, then you need to teach them from birth that they must idolize ideas, not people, not skin color, nothing but ideas, skills, and achievements. You may be right about blacks wanting to idolize other blacks who live in the same environment as themselves, but what good is idolizing people who thrive in a poor environment by committing crimes?
You just have to speak the unfortunate truth to other blacks that they can't base their models off of skin color and class. They need to pick a position they wish to achieve in life, and they need to idolize someone else who is in that position. If they want to be middle class, they need to idolize someone who is middle class. If they want to be a gangster, they need to pick a gangster to idolize. By telling everyone that they need a black role model, you are only limiting the people they can choose from to idolize! By telling them to idolize people according to anything but race, you expand the people they may pick from by a hundred fold!
I know I've been going in circles and I'm beating around the bush, but one of these paragraphs should hit you at the right angle to help you understand my point.
Primary inequality still exists. Even by the age of 5 differences can be seen. What chance does a kid have if he grows up in a household where education isnt valued, where there are no role models, nothing to do, where the schools are terrible, crime is rampant, violence a daily occurence. Im not saying white people who are successful dont work hard, but they often are the people who have a leg up in life. Just look at the professions(lawyers/doctors/business managers). 75% of them come from white, privately educated backgrounds.
That's all the
more reason to idolize them. Sure, maybe a black will see this and go "No way I'm idolizing someone who had life handed to them," but this is ignorant. If he was smart, he would look at these people and say "I will do whatever I can to get to that position in my life, and give my child these advantages, because I won't accept being called a n*gger by my fellow man."
N*ggers are n*ggers because they accept being called n*ggers by other n*ggers. I'm not calling anyone a n*gger, but when you're black and the word n*gger is thrown around, then all you're doing is enforcing your belief that blacks are, in fact, n*ggers.
I'm tired of n*ggers being a word only ghetto blacks and rappers can use. The only n*gger, in my opinion, is someone who calls others and themselves a n*gger.
If you're black and you're tired of being looked down upon by whites, then you shouldn't look up to other blacks, but rather admire those who you dislike. That's how you win in war, and the battle of life is no different.
Errm. Why should i have to? Your solution to this problem is suggesting black people move? Now look whos suggesting segregation.
If you are tired of living in the ghetto, get the fuck out of the ghetto. That isn't segregation of race, that's segregation of those who want to live in filth and those who don't want to live in filth. If you want, you can move to a lower-middle class community that is mostly black, or wherever you want. Just get out of the ghetto if you don't want to live there anymore.
Those are two pretty big assumptions to make about what i think. Statistically though, blacks are much poorer than whites, and have a much harder time reaching heights.
This is because blacks make up most of the ghettos. It's these blacks who choose to spit at whites. It's these blacks who are the most racist. No offense, but most blacks who live in the ghetto are also racist. It's this hate and whining that whites should give them an unfair advantage that keeps them in the ghetto. Rather than work hard like the white man they scoff at, they choose to be lazy, sell drugs, kill people, and join gangs, all to avoid becoming like whitey, all to avoid becoming successful in the same manner whites have become successful. And when a black man works hard to become middle class, those in the ghetto look away from him because "He isn't really black."
So please don't use the statistic that blacks are generally poorer than whites to support the fact they have a harder life. It's the blacks in the ghetto who gives all blacks a bad name. The blacks who aren't poor are part of a sad statistic. The middle class black is the minority who suffers the racism of their own race. If blacks weren't so racist, these blacks would be trusted more. Then again, middle class blacks don't act like dumb fucks. If you actually talk to successful black people who worked their way up, they may tell you they fought through some racist moments, but you just have to keep working to earn your respect. Yes, I have talked to black people who are middle class. They are hard workers and even if they do have to work harder than whites, they end up being respected more than the whites because after a while people stopped looking at their skin and instead at their skill.
I honestly dont care how hard they worked, since they dont come from the same background.
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RAGEDO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND HOW GOD DAMN IGNORANT THAT IS?!
"Oh they are different, so I can't use them as role models."
Fuck you. Nobody has the exact same background, and looking for people who have a similar back ground as you will only limit your options. If a person works hard to become upper class and started at middle class, why can't you learn from them? "Oh, they weren't lower class, so I won't look at them and go 'oh, maybe I should work hard.' all because they didn't start at the same position as me."
What you said is SO GOD DAMN STUPID. You are absolutely close minded! I admire Penn Jillette because he questions everything. He started out middle class. I admire Leonardo da Vinci, whom started out poor as dirt. In fact, he didn't have a last name. da Vinci is "of Vinci", the place he was born. I admire Alexander the Great for his wits and his ability to control whatever situations he is thrown into. He was born into royalty.
I DEMAND YOU READ "48 LAWS OF POWER". It's a whole book about achieving and keeping power. In it, the author uses examples of powerful people ranging from Cleopatra to a man who started out as a stable boy and became king. It even talks about people who never really achieved power, but used their influence to get out of tight situations.
Divide and rule. The middle/upper classes are very good at it. Most other white people are busy complaining its black people who get attention they dont deserve, despite the fact its the system
Bullshit.
in black council estates.
Because black council estates are racist.
WAAHHHH im white, i complain blacks get all the attention because theyre discriminated against
No, generally they aren't discriminated against. Whites will, however, refuse to hire blacks who dress in pants that they can't keep up. It's a discrimination against a sloppy personality, which is fair.
