ForumsWEPRIs It Right to Replace and/or Remove God from the U.S.?

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FutureUSMC2011
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I was just wondering what everyone else's opinion is. Is it right for the new modern government and certain groups to try and remove God out of things like school, monuments, the pledge of allegiance, etc.?

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cptbignuts12
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the US is a free country were you can worship your own god and religion so why do people who live in America say "one nation under god" when they have a diferent religion or "in god we trust" in the money they should remove god from the US

MageGrayWolf
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Well no, but people tend to make it seem that way.


That's because as BeastMode pointed out many atheist are activists.

The OP actually is related to atheism. After all, legally imposing the Christian deity onto an individual of a different faith/belief system, whether they be Muslim, Jew or Pastafarian, would be unconstitutional.


It's really more about religion trying to work it's way into government then atheism. The OP appears as if they were under the impression that these things that had slipped through were always there.

A person with absolutely no beliefs would more likely be classified as an agnostic, I think.


Don't get me started again... oh hell just watch the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTdU6HS_Ffw
nevetsthereaper
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so 314d1 who is this "you" and "your" personally, yes it should be removed, i think. but will it??? doubtfull

nonconformist
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I thought you were done trolling in the religious arguments. The OP actually is related to atheism. After all, legally imposing the Christian deity onto an individual of a different faith/belief system, whether they be Muslim, Jew or Pastafarian, would be unconstitutional.
And BTW, atheists actually do have beliefs. A strong atheist believes in the nonexistence of god. Besides, a lot of atheists are political activists, encouraging policies such as stem cell research, the removal of the Christian deity from the US, etc. A person with absolutely no beliefs would more likely be classified as an agnostic, I think.


Nah i felt the need to help get all the whiny athiests panties in a bunch again. O just a sec... Cuz God did it... oh nooooo.. And post all the negative comments on this bellloowwwww....

Well you could call it unconstitutional, but the reality is, if Americans are getting all huffy puffy about having God in the US motto, just move. Cuz only the athiests seem to be caring atm, and no one else really gives a sh't. And if it is unconstitutional than it seems the american government has a bunch of loop holes also..

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I will say this again, and I hope someone will comment on this:

It would be hypocritical. "in God We Trust", and yet, there would be no speck of God in the places we trust?

nevetsthereaper
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if you trust in god, and he is not in the place you trust, then you don't trust in that place, its that simple, now what is the point of that, house.

MageGrayWolf
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What am I suppose to trust God to do exactly?

locoace3
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to shoot lighting at and all forms of 'bad people' in the bible peoples minds

in real peoples idk...

314d1
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to shoot lighting at and all forms of 'bad people' in the bible peoples minds


I thought in the Bible people's minds he was killing our soldiers for not loving him enough...
locoace3
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I thought in the Bible people's minds he was killing our soldiers for not loving him enough...


how do you think he does i mean he's god but not magical cause he already lightninged all the magic dudes a looooong time ago
314d1
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if you trust in god, and he is not in the place you trust, then you don't trust in that place, its that simple, now what is the point of that, house.


Not true...

Lets say I trust one of my clan mates. That is easy, right? Now lets say I go to the bank. Should I not trust that bank simply because said clan mate is not there? No, I can trust it just as much.

Though it should be removed. I already stated why...
keeton52
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Have you noticed, that there really is no actual separation from church and state.

HahiHa
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You should remove him, he doesn't belong where he is now. Religion should be a choice, not a matter of nationality.

Fairylord
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Have you noticed, that there really is no actual separation from church and state.


It's a lot better than it could be. At least we try. You have to remember that the founding fathers had come from a place where they were legally persecuted for their secret worship services. I think we've made a lot of improvement on Catholic royalty making everyone believe the same. The men who made the U.S. wanted a place where protestants could practice without persecution- and without taking over the government and ramming their own beliefs down non-protestant throats. While we haven't succeeded entirely, we've made progress.
Religion should not be taught in public school, but students shouldn't be hampered from discussing it. In the real world, people should be able to handle Latin on their money and references to God in the anthem. As for the pledge... I doubt America is really "under God" any more anyway. Like I said, students shouldn't be taught religion at school- if their parents think religion is important, it can be taught at home and at church. But, at the same time, if a student wants to go around saying "God bless you" every time somebody sneezes, then the other student can say "thanks" or "you religious bigot! I'm never playing with you again!" and punch the first kid in the stomach. Teacher intervention is only necessary in the second situation.
keeton52
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Fairylord, Watch the film Religulous.

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