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TheAKGuy
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Well, I think of it more as an idealogical stance than a vice, but how do you feel about the objectification of women? As I see it, women are people. And another suprising fact, the Guy in my name truthfully indicates that I am male. I feel, that no matter where they are from, who they are, or what gender they have, people should be treated equally. Of course, that is my opinion, and so I will hope that people can share their views, even if they do believe in the objectification of women. So, please, no making insults on other people's comments. As the rules say, keep the debate friendly and clean. If possible, you can point out flaws, but, it is opinion. So remember, those are the rules, people!

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Avorne
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You claim I hate those who don't agree with me and yet you display nothing but loathing for others who do not share your opinion or go against your concepts of normality.

nevetsthereaper
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well, i guess were were two sides of the same coin then. glad we hashed that out.

Avorne
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Not really - I'm giving passionate responses to issues close to me - you're simply tossing aside anything that doesn't fit with your values. Two sides of the same coin? I'm a whole different currency to you.

nevetsthereaper
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lol, you hate all who disagree with your views just as much as i do, get over it. denial doesn't make you any less of a bigot.

BlackVortex
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Jeez, get a room guys.

Avorne
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Here are some articls Nevets - read them.

First
Second
Third

Also, here is the Kinsey Scale:

Rating Description
0 Exclusively heterosexual
1 Predominantly heterosexual, only incidentally homosexual
2 Predominantly heterosexual, but more than incidentally homosexual
3 Equally heterosexual and homosexual; bisexual.
4 Predominantly homosexual, but more than incidentally heterosexual
5 Predominantly homosexual, only incidentally heterosexual
6 Exclusively homosexual
X Asexual, Non-Sexual

Now, will you leave me alone and let us get back to the proper debate?

Avorne
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Double post to correct the spelling of the word articles and to point out that I posted the Kinsey Scale as proof that Asexuality is a legally accepted sexual orientation and not just some sort of 'fad' - seeing as how you like to call everything part of a 'fad'.

nevetsthereaper
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i thought you were getting on topic?? anyway, i think people should stop objectifying women, like avorne. thats on topic right?? then again, objectification is just a fad.

Avorne
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I was getting on topic but I am sick of you choosing my Asexuality as some sort of weak spot with which to bully me - it doesn't work and just makes you look like a moron.

Anyway, objectifying of women has sadly persisted for some time - things are starting to look up though. More and more people are changing their views of women and treating them as equals.

AnaLoGMunKy
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Children start exploring way before 10 years old so we need to teach our children younger... the only thing that stops us is our own shame and taboo of anything including the words sex and children in the same sentence. I looked at my willy when I was around 4 years old and went "OMFG what is THAT" If I had sex ed when I went to primary 1 or preschool perhaps I wouldnt have been so embarresed about it when I was in Primary 5. You know what kids are like "ooooh, so and so's got a boyfriend etc...

I fully agree with Asherlee and Avorne about marriage. You can love without marriage, also it can be a bonding between two parters in private. Its crazy how children talk about marriage as if its expected. And I wont even start about what kids think about having kids. (although my son did once say, in front of my g/f's parents to me and my g/f, "why dont you have a child because you have a willy and vagina" lol)
Although Im making a generalisation here so pinch some salt and sprinkle.

Maybe teaching our kids younger would help even out the gender bias a bit.

yep, you certainly sound like someone who loves life, and is super happy. i can tell because you hate everyone who disagrees withyou, and you think there is no meaning to anything, because afterall, theres nothing next right??


Dont get personal steven!
nevetsthereaper
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sorry, got a little carried away there, but like i said, women and men are different, i don't know about sex ed in primary, but teaching differences might be a better way to go about it than teaching that were all the same. that being said, sex is something very special, personal, and important. do you think it would be ok for both men and women to start experimenting with each other before 10 years old? i don't.

Avorne
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Yeesh - it's only the human body and it's only sex. A vital function for the continuation of the species I will admit but it's not something to hold in high reverence behind bullet-proof glass in a sex-mobile.

nevetsthereaper
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that attitude will bring about overpopulation, desensitisation(spelling?), and a complete lack of respect for the opposite sex. if sex wasn't special, what would stop anyone from just running around having sex with eachother, getting pregnant, doing it again. and again, not the person to get advice on about sex.

Avorne
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If you desensitize the perceived taboo's surrounding sex and teach children about sex and about protection etc from a younger age then when they get old enough to -ahem- try it for themselves they may just hold back and wait until they're older or make sure to use adequate protection instead of just 'going at it' and ending up pregnant.

nevetsthereaper
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how do you figure. you take away the "special meaning" of sex, and it no longer is something that needs work to attain. i mean i know you cant understand, because you feel no sexual attraction either way, but why do you think men do anything, make money and get big cars and kill each other and buy flowers and take women out to movies or to dinner. it would be the end of romance and love.

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