ForumsWEPRIs suicide an escape?

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Asterantha
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No matter the reason -- couldn't you say it's always an escape?

Is it selfish? Or, depending on the motive, selfless?

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1337Player
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Lets not turn this into a hitler topic...

I agree.

People suicide for many reasons. Anyone care to list them? In a list?
I'll name one.
-They hate their life.
deathopper
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Okay here's another reason they have drug/ family issue or they're just plane nuts.

MageGrayWolf
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1. ending up stronger and tougher from the experience,2. become depressed and withdraw into themselves and causes suicide sometimes,3. become wimpy pathetic people that can't get over a long gone issue which leads into more bullying or 4. becomes a bully themselves.


Any number of those in combination can happen.

People suicide for many reasons. Anyone care to list them? In a list?
I'll name one.
-They hate their life.


-severe depression/hopelessness.
-heartbreak
-mentally ill (such as schizophrenia/delusional)
-constant physical pain with no end in sight
-physical aliment resulting in being a burden to others around them
1337Player
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-constant physical pain with no end in sight

Constant physical pain. That's interesting. Very interesting.

Another question if I may. What is the common method/weapon of choice for suicide?
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Suicide is not an escape at all. More like a... as someone put it on one page, more like a surrender. As I said before it's an escape from this world. But what is to come after death?
XXAlienGirlXX
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A painful or traumatic life that was too unbearable for them, or they were just being a lil' bit too dramatic. :P

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People suicide for many reasons. Anyone care to list them? In a list?
I'll name one.
-They hate their life.


-severe depression/hopelessness.
-heartbreak
-mentally ill (such as schizophrenia/delusional)
-constant physical pain with no end in sight
-physical aliment resulting in being a burden to others around them


Substance abuse can cause suicidal tendencies also.

What is the common method/weapon of choice for suicide?


Here's a Wiki extract on it:

The leading method of suicide varies dramatically between countries. The leading methods in different regions include hanging, pesticide poisoning, and firearms. Worldwide 30% of suicides are from pesticides. The use of this method however varies markedly from 4% in Europe to more than 50% in the Pacific region. In the United States 52% of suicides involve the use of firearms. Asphyxiation and poisoning are fairly common as well. Together they comprised about 40% of U.S. suicides. Other methods of suicide include blunt force trauma (jumping from a building or bridge, self-defenestrating, stepping in front of a train, or car collision, for example). Exsanguination or bloodletting (slitting one's wrist or throat), intentional drowning, self-immolation, electrocution, and intentional starvation are other suicide methods. Individuals may also intentionally provoke another person into administering lethal action against them, as in suicide by cop.
Whether or not exposure to suicide is a risk factor for suicide is controversial. A 1996 study was unable to find a relationship between suicides among friends, while a 1986 study found increased rates of suicide following the televisation of news stories regarding suicide.
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yes, in some way, whether by example, someone want to be absolutely architect saw her, they arrived at the university told him that his grades are too low to be able to realize his dream.

He committed suicide, perhaps??

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In the United States 52% of suicides involve the use of firearms.

Why doesn't that surprise me...

What I find interesting is that suicude rate can vary a lot between different countries. I think it probably has to do with society, but as far as I know we don't know why.
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It's quite strange really - how much suicide DOES vary from country to country. I can't seem to pin any one factor down either. For example, I don't think money factors into it much - Japan, which is one of the highest-paying countries in the world, has the 9th large number of people committing suicide (proportionally) but the UK is way down the list on suicide rate and still pays relatively well.

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-severe depression/hopelessness.
-heartbreak
-mentally ill (such as schizophrenia/delusional)
-constant physical pain with no end in sight
-physical aliment resulting in being a burden to others around them



Mage, I can think of only a few to add and refine the generalizations of.

Severe head or spinal trauma that limits mobility and causes the once mentally and physically active person to feel trapped, overwhelmed and no longer useful to themselves or their family. Whereas someone can be born with a physical ailment and works hard to compensate for it for most of their life until reaching a breaking point. Both people can become depressed but the one who compensates for the life-long disability becomes physically exhausted, while the one with the sudden traumatic disability becomes mentally overwhelmed.


Terminal illness that causes dementia. Here again, it's the folks that once had mentally and physically active lives who suffer the most as they can tell their mind is slipping away.
In contrast, the ones born with severely diminished mental capacity are less likely to take their own lives if properly cared for by others. They are totally dependent on the care and protection from others for their well being, from birth. The terminally ill person that once enjoyed a fully independent life may suffer mentally at the prospect of becoming totally dependent on others for their care.

I think we can all agree that mental illness includes more definition than the ones Mage mentioned but to list them all is pointless. I just wanted to offer a few contrasts in the complexities of sudden and severe traumas with those that are born with disabilities.
Even talking about cancer is too complex but I will mention that men are just as likely as women to be diagnosed with breast cancer. I'm not suggesting all men have mammograms but it should be discussed before yearly physicals if his family has a history of it.
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[quote]In the United States 52% of suicides involve the use of firearms.


Why doesn't that surprise me...[/quote]
Lawl. I love how we Americans use guns for almost everything. <3

The thing I don't get is how people (in real life) talk about suicide without any seriousness.
They say, "Oh I was going to suicide myself yesterday but now I'm not."
and, "Did you hear that guy who suicided himself yesterday? That was cool."
I mean, COOL?! How is it cool?
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Sometimes I feel really unhappy but it always gets better so why commit scuicide?

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The thing I don't get is how people (in real life) talk about suicide without any seriousness.
They say, "Oh I was going to suicide myself yesterday but now I'm not."
and, "Did you hear that guy who suicided himself yesterday? That was cool."
I mean, COOL?! How is it cool?


Because these people are often times not being serious or simply do not care for their fellow man. Also one cannot suicide themself, they can, however, commit suicide.
1337Player
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Also one cannot suicide themself, they can, however, commit suicide.

Ah, sorry. Have I been saying that the entire time in this thread? I'm so stupid.
Sometimes I feel really unhappy but it always gets better so why commit scuicide?

Maybe because people have been "unhappy" way too many times, they hate that it happens to them and then they just would kill themselves.
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nope because if you think life is bad enough to commit suicide wait till you do it and go to hell where it just gets worse

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