As you can see - the Bible tends to shift it's opinion a lot. You certainly can't declare it 'unchanged'. Also, while I'm sure some of the points made in those links will be the same - look at them all anyway.
Knowing something will happen is different than actually seeing it take place.
so your arguement is that earth is basically a laboratory where god does fun little experiments on people simply because he wants to SEE what will happen even when he already knows what will happen?
Genesis 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Genesis 5:5 (New International Version) Altogether, Adam lived 930 years, and then he died. There you go. God lied to Adam. Or the Bible is wrong, either or.
It is not wrong he did die in a sense. He did not die that day but that day he did start to die.
Here you go Avorne. If one of the contradictions your talking about isn't there then show it specifficly and I will try to deal with it.
so your arguement is that earth is basically a laboratory where god does fun little experiments on people simply because he wants to SEE what will happen even when he already knows what will happen?
No not at all I was just exlaining one reason why God may allow such things to happen even though he knows what will happen.
It is not wrong he did die in a sense. He did not die that day but that day he did start to die.
God said Adam would die the day he ate the fruit. Adam didn't die the day he ate the fruit. How is that not contradictory? Are you really so indoctrinated that you are incapable of the most basic understanding of logic? I'm not trying to be mean, I'm being very serious. You said you wanted evidence, well there it is. God said something would happen which didn't.
Furthermore, here's biblical proof that God lies. (and I think we all consider lying a sin, or at the very least immoral)
1 Kings 22:23 Now, therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee.
2 Chronicles 18:22 Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets.
Ezekiel 14:9 And if a prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet.
2 Thessalonians 2:11 For this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.
Oh, but wait, the Bible says God cannot lie:
Titus 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began.
Hebrews 6:18 It was impossible for God to lie.
So which is it? Can he lie or not? The Bible doesn't even seem to know the answer.
When you read the bible you should not take everything literally.
Oh I don't. Especially the part about God and Jesus. Seriously, if you can't take everything literally then what do you take literally? And how do you know which is to be taken literally and which is not to be taken literally? Do you have some Jesus glasses which show you?
Oh, and more stuff that the Bible can't figure out:
David killed Goliath with a sling: 1 Samuel 17:49-50 David put his hand in his bag, and took thence a stone, and slang it, and smote the Philistine in his forehead, that the stone sunk into his forehead; and he fell upon his face to the earth. David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and with a stone, and smote the Philistine, and slew him; but there was no sword in the hand of David.
David killed Goliath with a sword: 1 Samuel 17:51 David ran, and stood upon the Philistine, and took his sword, and drew it out of the sheath thereof, and slew him,and cut off his head therewith.
Elhanan killed Goliath: 2 Samuel 21:19 And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaareoregim, a Bethlehemite, slew Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver's beam.
If he did not even let us try, he would just be a tyrant who throws us into heaven or hell without any reason whatsoever.
Again, he already knows what's going to happen so everything else is just a waste of time. There is no point in living and trying to get into Heaven if God already knows who is and who isn't. Furthermore there is no point in testing them if he already knows who is going to pass his test and who won't.
God said Adam would die the day he ate the fruit. Adam didn't die the day he ate the fruit. How is that not contradictory? Are you really so indoctrinated that you are incapable of the most basic understanding of logic? I'm not trying to be mean, I'm being very serious. You said you wanted evidence, well there it is. God said something would happen which didn't.
Also if you read the verse it doesn't say he will die that day.
In no way does that answer my question. Why would some all knowing being create something he knows will fail? WHAT IS THE POINT?
Well in the first place he created us to give glory to him and second he allowed us to sin in part because of free will. If we couldn't sin we would be mindless perfect zombies following god only because we have to not because we want to.
