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cddm95ace
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I believe that Jesus Christ was the Son of God and died on the cross for all our sins and did miracles his whole life.

What do you believe, and why?

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Hypermnestra
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Recognize any of these people who converted to Christianity?

Irrelevant.
Sorry for the shpam.
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and died on the cross for all our sins

our? why would he die for people that were bad? why didn't he continue to convert all the bad people. dieing doesn't help much. also did he really die so that Hitler and the other terrible people could cause so much pain? god has not helped the millions starving and dying in any way. When there are accidents like those miners stuck in that place. i know that there were people saying how "god" and "Jesus" helped them. what? so no credit goes to the ingenuity of the people that saved them?
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22When Jesus heard this, he said to him, "You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

*Points to this* Jeebez told you to sell all your things and give the mullah to the poor. Why have you not done so yet?

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22When Jesus heard this, he said to him, "You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

*Points to this* Jeebez told you to sell all your things and give the mullah to the poor. Why have you not done so yet?

Muahahahahahaaaa I have beaten you to the punch, Bible-wise! You cannot defeat me!
But srsly, already said.
And get your paradoxical Jesus right. It's all about "Grilled Cheesus" now, not "Jeebez". Gawd dude, get with the times.
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And get your paradoxical Jesus right. It's all about "Grilled Cheesus" now, not "Jeebez". Gawd dude, get with the times.


I don't watch glee...I just read blog that makes references to this...

And how dare you beat me! Now I am probably about to be ninjad by a Christian...

And so I don't classify this as spam, Jesus also said that he hadn't come to abolish the old laws, thus you are not aloud to eat selfish, pork, and not aloud to wear blended cloths.
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@Hyper:
First link: That means people who haven't shared the gifts of God will be poor in Heaven.
Second:"Wealth and riches are in his house,
and his righteousness endures forever"
Refers to ideological wealth in Heaven.
Third:"When Jesus heard this, he said to him, "You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.""
This applies to His apostles when he was on earth in the form of man.
Fourth:"Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a treasure in heaven that will not be exhausted, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys."
He doesn't mean literally sell everything. "A treasure" refers to spiritual freedom from the burdens of earth.
Fifth:"In the same way, any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple"
Jesus uses many metaphors; this particular one means that anyone who is not capable of giving up everything (when they are dead) may not be His disciple.
Sixth:The apostles never told him to give them his money.
Any other questions?

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I don't watch glee...I just read blog that makes references to this...

That wasn't Glee ref, I was actually meaning Spaghetti Monster. Grilled cheese sandwich is the only thing that can possibly compete with spaghetti!

And how dare you beat me! Now I am probably about to be ninjad by a Christian...

Ninja Mormon.
Hypermnestra
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@Hyper:
First link: That means people who haven't shared the gifts of God will be poor in Heaven.
Second:"Wealth and riches are in his house,
and his righteousness endures forever"
Refers to ideological wealth in Heaven.
Third:"When Jesus heard this, he said to him, "You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.""
This applies to His apostles when he was on earth in the form of man.
Fourth:"Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a treasure in heaven that will not be exhausted, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys."
He doesn't mean literally sell everything. "A treasure" refers to spiritual freedom from the burdens of earth.
Fifth:"In the same way, any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple"
Jesus uses many metaphors; this particular one means that anyone who is not capable of giving up everything (when they are dead) may not be His disciple.
Sixth:The apostles never told him to give them his money.
Any other questions?


And how on Earth are you interpreting this?
Who are you to say that the Bible doesn't mean what it says? Interpretation is broad and often crappy. Just admit that it contradicts itself in that sense.
And you haven't responded to the medicine thing. Respond to that pweeze.
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Sure, why is your interpretation different from most other people, even though you supposedly have a personal relationship with JezubuzCheebuz? And why do we need you to translate everything? Why don't we just say that he meant what he said instead of asking someone who has no clue?

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@cddm:Yes, another Christian. It's unfortunate you weren't here in months past, when I still came to the WEPR and samy argued for Christianity, not against it. I will come back to the WEPR once I get a proper computer that I can rely upon; the Wii doesn't link to well.

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And how on Earth are you interpreting this?
Who are you to say that the Bible doesn't mean what it says? Interpretation is broad and often crappy. Just admit that it contradicts itself in that sense.
And you haven't responded to the medicine thing. Respond to that pweeze.


QUITE NINJAING ME!

And here is Nonestampcollector's "Jesus and the Interpreter" that fits here.
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And here is Nonestampcollector's "Jesus and the Interpreter" that fits here.

RAWWWRRRR!!! I WAS GONNA PUT THAT!
That's it, I declare ninja fest!
Joe96
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did he really die so that Hitler and the other terrible people could cause so much pain?

It is said that God gave man the power of free will. It was free will that lead to the corruption of man from the original sin of disobeying God through the sin of today. God gave man free will even knowing that some people would oppose him because of it. God didn't kill 6 million people, Hitler did.
Jeebez

"Grilled Cheesus"

You just do that, because you are disrespectful of people who have different views than you.
Now I am probably about to be ninjad by a Christian...

Most Christians don't carry shurikens in their pockets...
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