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cddm95ace
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I believe that Jesus Christ was the Son of God and died on the cross for all our sins and did miracles his whole life.

What do you believe, and why?

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TennesseeBoy
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Okay, it seems like many of you don't even think he existed. It is a FACT that he existed and that he was burned. What isn't proven and what is up for debate, is whether or not he was the Messiah and the legends of the incredible things he has done.

I personally believe he existed.

Hypermnestra
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You just do that, because you are disrespectful of people who have different views than you.

I am only doing it as a joke. Sheesh. I think it's funny, you are being overly sensitive.
And please respond to the medicine thing I posted on page 9.

Most Christians don't carry shurikens in their pockets...

Well of course not, they carry Pass Along Cards, which are equally deadly. xP
Joe96
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Just admit that it contradicts itself in that sense

No, because I go to church. You just say that the Bible is meant to be taken literally, even though you don't believe a thing it says.
And you haven't responded to the medicine thing. Respond to that pweeze

In fact, I have. If you go back a few pages, you will see I said that medicine is a wonderful thing and that there is nothing wrong with it...except bad medicine.
locoace3
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your all actually wrong the real god is FSM feel the touch of his noodly appendage! dorry to burst your bubbles

RAmen!

Hypermnestra
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In fact, I have. If you go back a few pages, you will see I said that medicine is a wonderful thing and that there is nothing wrong with it...except bad medicine.

Yes, but you didn't respond to mine. I mentioned what the Bible told you about medicine, not about meds themselves, and you didn't respond to that.
Here, I'll post it again.
Obedience to God = No Plague.
Blood Offering = No Skin Disease.

No, because I go to church. You just say that the Bible is meant to be taken literally, even though you don't believe a thing it says.

Here's my question to you; how are you supposed to tell what parts of the Bible are meant to be taken literally, and what parts are meant figuratively?
314d1
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It is said that God gave man the power of free will. It was free will that lead to the corruption of man from the original sin of disobeying God through the sin of today. God gave man free will even knowing that some people would oppose him because of it. God didn't kill 6 million people, Hitler did.


But Yahweh had many, many other genocides, including one where he wiped out the entire earth, so it kind of evens out if he existed...


That, plus the fact that he MADE THEM LIKE THAT. He gave them there personality. He could have made Hitler a peaceful carpenter or baker, but instead decided he wanted a genocidal insane madman. He new what the consequences of building Hitler the way he did would be, thus is responsible for it directly, sending millions into hell. If he existed.

You just do that, because you are disrespectful of people who have different views than you.


I am disrespectful of the views, not the people. As Jezabazuz said, turn the other cheek and give me your shirt when I steal your coat.

Most Christians don't carry shurikens in their pockets...


Ah, so there kuni people?
Joe96
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Okay, it seems like many of you don't even think he existed. It is a FACT that he existed and that he was burned. What isn't proven and what is up for debate, is whether or not he was the Messiah and the legends of the incredible things he has done.

I believe he was crucified, but if you believe in God, I suppose It doesn't matter.
I personally believe he existed

He did and he still does.
I think it's funny, you are being overly sensitive

No, I'm not being overly sensitive. When you say that what I believe in doesn't exist, I will argue.
Hypermnestra
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No, I'm not being overly sensitive. When you say that what I believe in doesn't exist, I will argue.

Hold on; I was talking about the "Cheesus" thing! Of course this is a debate forum, I wasn't talking about that, but you said we were being disrespectful, when all we were doing was joking around.
314d1
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Hold on; I was talking about the "Cheesus" thing! Of course this is a debate forum, I wasn't talking about that, but you said we were being disrespectful, when all we were doing was joking around.


Maybe next time we should try something more obvious, Pope Song anyone?
Joe96
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As Jezabazuz said, turn the other cheek and give me your shirt when I steal your coat.

That is disrespectful to the people.
Hold on; I was talking about the "Cheesus" thing! Of course this is a debate forum, I wasn't talking about that, but you said we were being disrespectful, when all we were doing was joking around

Well there are a few things people shouldn't joke about:
1.Religion
2.Politics
3.Personal Opinions
etc.
Also, you don't seem to be really "joking".
You're arguing that "there is no God" and providing links and "evidence".
locoace3
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http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/img/2007/fstdt-evolution-fossils.jpg



Well there are a few things people shouldn't joke about:
1.Religion
2.Politics
3.Personal Opinions
etc.
Also, you don't seem to be really "joking".
You're arguing that "there is no God" and providing links and "evidence".


lol politics i thought it all was a big joke and so is religion personal opinions ....AHAHAHA!! those make the best jokes
Hypermnestra
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You're arguing that "there is no God" and providing links and "evidence".

Actually, I am not arguing there is no God at the moment, I'm arguing about the Bible itself.
And I am providing links and evidence(note the lack of quotation marks). You are not. So why not start?

Well there are a few things people shouldn't joke about:
1.Religion
2.Politics
3.Personal Opinions
etc.
Also, you don't seem to be really "joking".

Again, the overly sensitive thing. This is the internet. Seriously.

That is disrespectful to the people.

No, he really did say that.

And seriously, can we please get back on topic? Just answer my question on how you determine your interpretation of the Bible, and about the medicine thing.
314d1
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Well there are a few things people shouldn't joke about:
1.Religion
2.Politics
3.Personal Opinions


Religion and politics make some of the funniest jokes, just look at South Park and Family Guy!

Wholly Grilled Cheebuz batman the Christians can't take a joke! To the science mobile!

You're arguing that "there is no God" and providing links and "evidence".


You can't have evidence that something without evidence doesn't exist...Actually what we have been doing for the last few pages has been showing you that your view doesn't even mach in the scriptures and your following your religion wrong....

And now I will assume I am ninjad and act accordingly

QUIT NIJAYING ME!
MageGrayWolf
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No one has ever seen God or has any proof of Him,


If there is no proof of God then everything you said after this statement attributing actions to this God is pure assertion. Yet you state them as fact.

that's why it's called a belief, and I believe that God is the creator of all things, of all that is good.


So why believe in something that is completely unverified?

How about we just say neither figure exists eh?


agreed.

But those people may be the purest of soul and have what is good in Heaven. Who is truly better off, the person who has a big house with a nice car on earth or the person who lives forever in Heaven?


There would have to be a heaven in the first place. Further more the requirements to get in would have to be as you say they are. Both of which are just assertions.

the man with the car, as for heaven is just a theory (because it is unproven, i call it a theory)


No it's just an assertion.

assertion; a positive statement or declaration, often without support or reason

You are right that we can't prove it, but is there any evidence to suggest it not exist?


That's not how it works. Your making the positive claim of it being real so it is up to you to provide the evidence.

I think it's about time I pulled out this clip explaining how this works.
Invisible Flying Elephant

What he was saying was that the people who are the strongest in faith trust Him enough as an example. Personally, I trust God, but I think he would want me to have medicine.


What is it that God does anyway?

When there are accidents like those miners stuck in that place. i know that there were people saying how "god" and "Jesus" helped them. what? so no credit goes to the ingenuity of the people that saved them?


The same for that pilot that managed to land that plane in the river. Yeah had nothing to do with his years of piloting skills "God saved them". -_-

And so I don't classify this as spam, Jesus also said that he hadn't come to abolish the old laws, thus you are not aloud to eat selfish, pork, and not aloud to wear blended cloths.


Not to mention the putting to death people for things that are hardly even bad if that.

"When Jesus heard this, he said to him, "You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.""


In other words just ignore it huh?

this particular one means that anyone who is not capable of giving up everything (when they are dead) may not be His disciple.


Nope, read the chapter there's nothing in there about it meaning when you die. He seems to be pretty clearly saying when you got something give it away.
MageGrayWolf
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It is said that God gave man the power of free will. It was free will that lead to the corruption of man from the original sin of disobeying God through the sin of today.


Then God is to blame for that corruption.

God didn't kill 6 million people, Hitler did.


God is responsible for far more deaths. Also if we are to say God is responsible for every life and we are all existing in a finite existence then we could say God is responsible for all deaths.

Okay, it seems like many of you don't even think he existed. It is a FACT that he existed and that he was burned.


Actually his existence is sketchy at best. It may have been a single person which it was based on or like many other things in Christianity a compilation of many characters both real and fictional.

Well there are a few things people shouldn't joke about:
1.Religion
2.Politics
3.Personal Opinions


Nothing should be above being made fun of. Some beliefs require that these things get poked fun at to keep them humble.

"Grilled Cheesus"

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