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valkery
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Why do half the people who visit the WEPR forums smear Christianity? Why don't you people realize that, yeah, Christians can be real dumb-a** mofo's from time to time, but yet there are many, many Christian organizations out there that do good all across the globe. Why must you spend your time trying to convince people that Christians are bad people when that is simply not true?

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Kyouzou
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I have never referred to Christians as stupid. I dislike religion as a whole, which usually comes across when I get into a debate.

However, in the case when you're debating and your opponent pulls something from the bible as proof, it's almost a matter of principle to ridicule them.

MageGrayWolf
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Isn't the inverse exactly exactly true as well. There are a lot of decent Atheist or secular organization that do plenty of good that take donations of money and use it for to feed hunger people, but they might take some of the money off the top to buy pamphlets and use them to promote Atheism.


As wolf said it's not a religion. I would be more inclined to call it a lack of belief in a deity rather then a belief in no higher power.

a-; without, not
theist; belief in a deity
put them together.
atheist; without belief in a deity

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y163/MageGrayWolf/bizarro_atheists.jpg

Have any of you ever asked them why they believe such things?


Yes I have. You can usually get some quote from the Bible.

Furthermore, not everyone who claims to be a Christian is genuinely one


What makes someone a "true Christian"? Far as I can tell the requirement are to believe Jesus was your Messiah and to hold a belief in the existence of the Abrahamic God. How you follow the doctrines it's all based on vary greatly from there.

Why is it that the credibility of the Bible has been argued for so many years when the Magna Carta was never put up for discussion? Or the Declaration of Independance?


I don't think these are comparable to the Bible.
Ithikhar
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What makes someone a "true Christian"? Far as I can tell the requirement are to believe Jesus was your Messiah and to hold a belief in the existence of the Abrahamic God. How you follow the doctrines it's all based on vary greatly from there.


First, define to me what you mean by 'messiah', then I will answer. Holding a belief is not all there is to Christianity, and the Apostle's proved that with every heretic they refuted.

I don't think these are comparable to the Bible.


And why would that be? Fine then, if not the D of I, then how about the Constitution?
Kyouzou
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I can see how you would compare the Bible to the Constitution, however the constitution can evolve and change with the times. Something the bible is incapable of.

Ithikhar
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I can see how you would compare the Bible to the Constitution, however the constitution can evolve and change with the times. Something the bible is incapable of.


If the Constitution evolves and changes with the times, why do we have the check of the legislation branch that can declare a law "Unconstitutional"? Why not change the constitution and not the law and new way of the world?
Ithikhar
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Correction; Judicial Branch, not legislative

MageGrayWolf
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Kyouzou
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I fail to see what that has to do with the topic at hand.

To answer your question however, there are certain things that are needed no matter the time period. The check is there to prevent the formation of an elite group that controls all aspects of legislature without question.

Ithikhar
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Take your pick.

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/ ⦠tions.html

Quiz Show (Bible Contradictions)

Bible Contradictions vol. 1


I want your words Mage, not someone else's.
MageGrayWolf
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First, define to me what you mean by 'messiah'


(from thefreedictionary.com)
3. messiah One who is anticipated as, regarded as, or professes to be a savior or liberator.

Holding a belief is not all there is to Christianity, and the Apostle's proved that with every heretic they refuted.


Last I checked Christianity was a religion and all a religion is, is a belief.

And why would that be? Fine then, if not the D of I, then how about the Constitution?


No they aren't comparable either. If you want to compare the Bible with something else then you would want to compare it to another holy text claiming absolute truth.
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We smear Christians because they are mostly the people that is standing in the way of equal rights for Homosexuals, choice, and the establishment of other religions.

And yet the Church remains! And the Roman empire who went through crazed Emperors, power hungry kings, and greedy senators and fell. The Church has gone through harder things than any political entity be it personal matters and persecution, but has survived through all the ages and will for many more years.


Yes, and the Church has also undergone massive propaganda movements and executions for those that had works that would contradict the Christian religion. To keep them and everyone else quiet. To set an example.
MageGrayWolf
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I want your words Mage, not someone else's.


You think me quoting the Bible is going to some how change it? I might use a different version, but other then that the contradictions mentioned in those links are still there.
valkery
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Why must you people constantly

point out flaws and fallacies in their logic and in the Bible
Christians and not the Arabic beliefs, or Hinduism, or any of the other religions out there. Why focus primarily on Christian and not other religions?
Avorne
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Because there are more Christians on AG than any other religion?

Freakenstein
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We could. But would it matter? It's still religion. I also haven't seen a Muslim, Hindu, or Buddhist debate over their opinion that their religion is best. It's always Christianity. I also get the sense that the Bible has the most fallacies. But that's just me.

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