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thepyro222
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I grew up atheist for 16 years. I had always kept an open mind towards religion, but never really felt a need to believe in it. My sister started going to a Wednesday night children's program at a church. Eventually, I was dragged into a Christmas Eve service. Scoffing, I reluctantly went, assuming that this was going to be a load of crap, but when I went, I felt something. Something that I've never felt before. I felt a sense of empowerment and a sense of calling. Jesus called upon my soul, just like he did with his disciples. he wanted me to follow him. Now, my life is being lived for Christ. He died on the cross for my sins, and the sins of everyone who believes in him. He was beaten, brutalized, struck with a whip 39 times, made to carry a cross up to the stage of his death. This I believe to be true, and I can never repay him for what he has done.
I still have my struggles with Christianity, but I've found this bit of information most useful. Religion is not comprehensible in the human mind, because we cannot comprehend the idea of a perfect and supreme being, a God, but we can believe it in our heart, and that's the idea of faith. Faith is, even though everything rides against me believing in Jesus, I still believe in him because I know that it's true in my heart. I invite my fellow Brothers and sisters of the LORD to talk about how Jesus has helped you in your life. No atheists and no insults please

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dair5
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If you look closer, you see that they all had a chance. Noah preached to them, inviting them aboard the boat for scores of years. It was their own foolish mankind pride that kept them from obeying God.


So if some guy preached to you that god was going to end the world, and to survive, you needed to hop into a boat full of animals would you do it? I hope not, this sounds a little crazy.
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Well aren't you filled with pride feeling honored to be a follower of your "GOD" so every man has pride and there-forth has committed a sin.

Freakenstein
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All given chances to repent, all filled with pride.


And was God's decision and choice to sin. He could have removed said pride without sinning.

Do I need to say it again? Jesus was crucified by his own will.


I need to say it again, apparently, that this is akin to assisted suicide. God and Jesus are two of the three that join the Holy Trinity. He sent Jesus to die on the cross, not Jesus sent himself. Anyway you slice it, both your and my arguments on this part are oxymoronic. So I will just play it safe and say assisted suicide for contributing to someone's sacrifice, despite it being "his own will". Because assisted suicide has no silver linings.
Jake297
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Well aren't you filled with pride feeling honored to be a follower of your "GOD" so every man has pride and there-forth has committed a sin.

So? I said before that everyone haas sinned.
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You said he only died temporarily. In that case, it isn't a sacrifice, now is it?


Look, he needs to come alive again, or else the devil would have won. However, he still died. I'm going to write a large article on here. Just wait.
Freakenstein
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Look, he needs to come alive again, or else the devil would have won. However, he still died


God has the power to keep him in Hell though. How would he win? God has ultimate power.
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I need to say it again, apparently, that this is akin to assisted suicide. God and Jesus are two of the three that join the Holy Trinity. He sent Jesus to die on the cross, not Jesus sent himself. Anyway you slice it, both your and my arguments on this part are oxymoronic. So I will just play it safe and say assisted suicide for contributing to someone's sacrifice, despite it being "his own will". Because assisted suicide has no silver linings.

But since they are the same, they were both crucified willingly.
Freakenstein
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But since they are the same, they were both crucified willingly.


Not really. Willingly dieing is suicide. Akin to a terminally-ill patient who wishes to "set him free."
Jake297
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God has the power to keep him in Hell though. How would he win? God has ultimate power.

And, the devil will be placed in eternity after the Tribulation.
macfan1
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Well aren't you filled with pride feeling honored to be a follower of your "GOD" so every man has pride and there-forth has committed a sin.


Yes, everyone has sinned and has fallen short of the glory of God. And his punishment is death. However, Jesus loves us so much that instead of having us pay the punishment, he took it on himself because he loves us.

God has the power to keep him in Hell though. How would he win? God has ultimate power.


God is extremely wise. He knows what he's doing.
Jake297
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Not really. Willingly dieing is suicide. Akin to a terminally-ill patient who wishes to "set him free."

Not if someone is killing you by their own accord.
macfan1
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God has a purpose for creating Satan in the first place. Whatever it is, I trust Him.

Freakenstein
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And, the devil will be placed in eternity after the Tribulation.


Why not now? What's stopping him? Why does he need to wait? Apparently the devil is responsible for so much temptation that God is losing potential followers. But then God could have just removed the temptation. And Satan's ability to tempt.
Jake297
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Yes, everyone has sinned and has fallen short of the glory of God.

And Romans 10:13 proves that, too.
Jake297
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Why not now? What's stopping him? Why does he need to wait? Apparently the devil is responsible for so much temptation that God is losing potential followers. But then God could have just removed the temptation. And Satan's ability to tempt.

God has given the Devil control of the non-Christian people on earth, but just until God takes all His people into Heaven.
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