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Paarfam
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Over my short time here at AG I've noticed that almost all threads dealing with religion end the same way: Does God exist? I've decided to create a thread dealing strictly with that debate. In saying/supporting either side be specific, and you may be as broad as including every religion to as specific as reading a sentence out of the bible.
Atheism areas to consider:
-Big Bang theory
-Evolution
-Dinosaurs
-Aliens(?)
Religion areas to consider
-Anything that makes people believe in something religious.

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Paarfam
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No, no, no. Here, God is not saying that unicorns exist. This is what his people said! NOT HIM! That's what I was getting at.
I don't understand what you mean about pi, but if you do he is saying about. Explain the pi thing? The unicorns, ugh, people don't realize God doesn't try to change our thoughts.

Avorne
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It's basically saying that Pi = 3 when in reality it equals 3.14...etc

Paarfam
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Ah... I see. God doesn't really say any of those other things, though. It was widely believed that Pi was 3 at that time and they never accepted new beliefs or someone was dead.

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It was widely believed that Pi was 3 at that time and they never accepted new beliefs or someone was dead.


By the time the event in the Bible supposedly occurred we already had Pi accuracy calculated out to the first place and inaccurately to the third place. By the time it was written down we had Pi accurately calculated to the third place. In short we knew Pi was more then 3.
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Yes, because god totally said all of those things... (Sarcasm)
These are just people's misinterpretations of the world, I'd like you to say a place where God says these things in the Bible. And, no, it can't say that a person said that because God respects our thoughts so he wouldn't change what someone said.


Avorne has shown most of them but here is loads of flat earth stuff. It is Islamically biased but everything has bible references. And since the Bible supposedly had divine inspiration couldn't God say like "oh yeah and pi=3.14..." I mean he apparently showed himslelf, a little imparting of knowledge couldn't hurt.

No, no, no. Here, God is not saying that unicorns exist. This is what his people said! NOT HIM! That's what I was getting at.
I don't understand what you mean about pi, but if you do he is saying about. Explain the pi thing? The unicorns, ugh, people don't realize God doesn't try to change our thoughts.


Everything that happens changes our thoughts. For instance reading some peoples posts make my thoughts change to this guy is an idiot. Seeing a divine being is a pretty big thought changer. And like I said earlier couldn't god just boom from the clouds a little science or logic. And if parts of the bible can be so easily cast aside as mortal mistakes why can't the whole bible. How do we know the bits about jesus or god aren't just one big mistake.
Paarfam
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How do we know the bits about jesus or god aren't just one big mistake.

We don't. And I proudly admit it. I'd rather be wrong then go to Hell.
Avorne has shown most of them but here is loads of flat earth stuff. It is Islamically biased but everything has bible references. And since the Bible supposedly had divine inspiration couldn't God say like "oh yeah and pi=3.14..." I mean he apparently showed himslelf, a little imparting of knowledge couldn't hurt.

Actually, because God respects our thoughts he won't help us the universe's greatest mysteries and he never will. The only thing he influenced us with was editing the Bible. Other than that people wrote it. We discussed this earlier.
For instance reading some peoples posts make my thoughts change to this guy is an idiot.

Are you calling me an idiot!?
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What was the point of sending Jesus here or of writing the bible, if god didn't want to change our thoughts? I think they changed people's thoughts a lot. And god doesn't seem to respect people's thoughts a lot, since he burns in hell everyone that doesn't agrees with the bible.

Paarfam
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God's teaches are... Different. He doesn't necessarily come out and say "This is what is is," he just does things to give us clues to alter our thoughts. He doesn't really go out and change them.

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I mix atheism and religion. I do not think that God has everything to do with how we live our lives (like how I hit a serve into the net in my tennis match), but the chances of life being created on our planet were so slim, that either God or some aliens did it.

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God's teaches are... Different. He doesn't necessarily come out and say "This is what is is," he just does things to give us clues to alter our thoughts. He doesn't really go out and change them.


Sounds like a cop out to me.

I mix atheism and religion. I do not think that God has everything to do with how we live our lives (like how I hit a serve into the net in my tennis match), but the chances of life being created on our planet were so slim, that either God or some aliens did it.


Given the environment and base chemical compounds this planet has along with how it's likely amino acids (a good kick start to life) could have been carried here from meteorites it's very likely life could have formed on this planet.

Also do you believe in God or not? because if you do, your misusing the term atheist.
Paarfam
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Sounds like a cop out to me.

How's that?
Also do you believe in God or not? because if you do, your misusing the term atheist.

True. God can't "kind of exist." He's either there or not.
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He doesn't necessarily come out and say "This is what is is,"

But the church did that for centuries. They killed as heretic everyone that had an interpretation of the bible slighty different from the official one.
Paarfam
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But the church did that for centuries. They killed as heretic everyone that had an interpretation of the bible slighty different from the official one.

That's what I'm saying. God didn't change the people's idea on killing for the "good" of the church, nor did he influence them to do that or not.
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How's that?


In the sense that it skirts around the issue of evidence.

That's what I'm saying. God didn't change the people's idea on killing for the "good" of the church, nor did he influence them to do that or not.


Providing a Bible in the first place was influencing them.
Paarfam
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Providing a Bible in the first place was influencing them.

God didn't write the Bible. God edited it from the people to make sure it was truthful. Although it may seem not, it's almost all metaphorical for something of a greater meaning.
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