ForumsWEPRif god is all forgiving, why is there hell

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brp47
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im an athiest and never understood why if god forgives everyone then why dose he send people to hell

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sprooschicken
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god only knows, literally, i have no idea it really makes no sense as with most of the bible, howver a good question

MageGrayWolf
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If Satan is supposed to be evil, why does he punish bad people


From a religious POV the reason that would likely be given is that the evil people are the only ones he can hurt. Though this ignores areas where this isn't the case.
deth4
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Though this ignores areas where this isn't the case.


He can only hurt evil people, except when he doesnt hurt evil people

im a penguin, but only when im not a human
grimml
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And what if Satan would change his mind? What if he wouldn't be evil to the evil people? Then everybody would like to go to hell. I mean, you can do anything on earth and still have a good afterlife. Wouldn't that piss off God?

HahiHa
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And what if Satan would change his mind? What if he wouldn't be evil to the evil people? Then everybody would like to go to hell. I mean, you can do anything on earth and still have a good afterlife. Wouldn't that piss off God?

Best thing is, we wouldn't even know about that since christianity is hammering us with the "evil devil and painful hell" idea, and as far as I know, we have no stories written by a demon about how hell really is^^
MageGrayWolf
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Another question Why doesn't Satan show himself?
It's said god doesn't because he wants to protect free will out of some form of love. If the devils whole deal is to undermine what God wants then it stands to reason him showing up and saying hi in a physical form would do the trick. He could even use the appearance to say how the Bible got it all wrong about hell.

sprooschicken
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Another question Why doesn't Satan show himself?
It's said god doesn't because he wants to protect free will out of some form of love. If the devils whole deal is to undermine what God wants then it stands to reason him showing up and saying hi in a physical form would do the trick. He could even use the appearance to say how the Bible got it all wrong about hell.


why wouldn't he do this and impersonate God? if satan could appear in a physical form and God could not satan could tell them that he is God and lead them astray
deth4
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Because, everybody wait for it....

They don't exist

HahiHa
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They don't exist

Of course, but we're talking hypothetically here, so that we don't have to have that argument with christians again.. at least not in that thread.
sprooschicken
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Because, everybody wait for it....

They don't exist


yes we know, and by speaking hypothetically and speaking as id they did exist, we are finding reasons why they cannot
Wyrzen
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Here's my reasoning.

God is like a parent. Your parents don't forgive you if you chant their name and kiss a cross. Neither does God. He only forgives you if you are sincere. This gives lots of room for people to be tormented in Hell, but not everyone is punished the same. Think Hitler vs. a common thief.

@grimml

Satan is evil to everybody. He tricks you, then abandons you. His goal is to make you as miserable as he is.

Kasic
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God is like a parent.


Yeah, but any parent who tortures their kid for all eternity for blasphemy would be put into jail.
indie55
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Yeah, but any parent who tortures their kid for all eternity for blasphemy would be put into jail.

Depends on which country this happens in.
Wyrzen
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Yeah, but any parent who tortures their kid for all eternity for blasphemy would be put into jail.


Ah, but it never says anywhere that people are tortured for eternity, nor does it say how. It could just be you are tortured by the thoughts of you sins or whatnot. And why would you punish a simple thief for eternity?
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There is hell because some people don't deserve to go to heaven, do you think god should've let Hitler or Saddam Hussein into heaven? Of course not.

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