I want to see 5.9 billion people's faces when they read this. You're telling us that if we don't believe in this one particular god, we will suffer an eternity of torture, and even if we do nothing bad our entire lives, we will still perish in hell?
5.9 billion people? At first, 4.6 billion non-Christians. Second, if you REFUSE to believe in God, even at the point of your death, YES you will end up in Hell, since you have just said to God "I don't want you around". If you DO NOT believe but also DO NOT refuse God at the point of your death, then you MIGHT be saved, depending on your deeds, your repentance, your ideals, and God's mercy.
Sorry, I didn't fully concentrate on what you said, I take back the Gandhi part.
No problem.
Gehenna was not a place where one would descend if they committed sins in their life, but a physical place where wicked people would sacrifice their children to fire.
Hmm. I was under an impression that Judaism stated that souls don't ascend from the sheol.
since as an absolute moral they would have to apply to him as well.
Oh, you state morals should apply to God? Then, who is the one to charge God if God upholds morales? You?
Alright the one thing that actually has something of a point to it. This is really more of a word game though. Yes it can mean arbitrary as it's individualized and not necessarily based on law. However it is not random or by chance, in this sense it is not arbitrary.
Hmm. Yes, it's not quite random, it is based on the main ideals of the society that you belong to. Still, even a society's morale is arbitrary to a certain degree. Laws are also not absolute, as they are devised by people who occasionally put their egoistic interests inside.
I'm not sure how your jumping to such a conclusion. Nor do I see what point your trying to make here. If I was irrational and not in control of my faculties to make such judgments I would still have to live under the rules set by the society I live in and since in this case would be unable to properly make such decisions for myself I would have to defer to this. But since this is not the case I can make such decision on my own and can even decide if the societies values are good or not and if I find a problem with them I can try to take steps to change them as being pert of that group.
Well, you could remain sane and rational all the way you like, but all of a sudden you've been declared madman. You are unable to prove your sanity anymore to anyone within the society you belong to, because of the common opinion prevailing and undermining your efforts. So, you have lost your basis on which you set up your morality. Will you deviate from that?
I am trying to make a point that you cannot be the judge of any action, be it even yours, if you don't rely on an external invariable or slowly variable source. Further, I am trying to say that no single human can be in such a position, and yet again further, speaking about "sane people" as single society, as the world is trying to consolidate at least in the Internet, one need an extra-terrestrial basis to judge anyone, be it even himself.
The only ''evidence'' whether it exists or not comes from a book that is so riddled with contradictions it makes it hard to believe.
Unless you don't count any personal evidence, be it even coherent and independent. You might search for any other evidences of Hell, and coe upon Fatima's apparitions, where children report that they have seen Hell, along with the entire story as the supportive evidence.
