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Ands the video was just talking about how things die out what does that have ANYTHING to do with our discussion?

ok we have created RNA molecules in a lab that evolved and adapted based on environmental stimuli and fulfilled the criterion for life! that is essentially proof that evolution CAN occur. (side note, since these are only RNA molecules they are not technically life)

Storm Wolf is right how can we prove evolution... Answer is WE CAN'T get it through your thick heads.

SCIENCE has even proven evolution to only be a theory with a bunch of question we can't answer.

Darwin even says in HIS OWN WRITING that his theory had many holes to it.

"Where is the evidence of creation?" it is every where look around you go outside and look at ants and animals that the small animals that live in your back yard.

Go on Google and look up Lamimin and look at it for a while and not just a glance but see the shape of the tiny thing that holds all of our bodies together at this very instant of each and every one of our lives.

If everything happens by chance then why do we sit at our computers every day? just for entertainment or just to do it. Why do we (When I mean we I mean people who have jobs and families) work just to do it or to make income to feed families? Please respond on my page and we will talk more.

Show me the proof then send me a link of a picture of a half dinosaur and half bird.

I am growing weary of the lack of understanding many posters here have of the theory of evolution. Genetic mutations occur incrementally over thousands or millions of years; hence, the discovery of a "half dinosaur and half bird" (by which I assume is meant bird-dinosaur pastiche like Frankenstein's monster) would actually disprove the theory of evolution in its present form. However, we know of several dinosaur species with avian characteristics such as Archaeopteryx, which could be pejoratively described as "half dinosaur and half bird." My point is that a distressing amount of people seem to think that evolution takes place on a human timescale and can be consciously controlled by the organism evolving. Though, admittedly, bacterial strains can evolve very quickly, such rapid evolution is impossible in macroorganisms. In conclusion, I would strongly suggest that any posters on this thread take the time to familiarize themselves with the modern theory of evolution.

Though, admittedly, bacterial strains can evolve very quickly, such rapid evolution is impossible in macroorganisms.

I would strongly suggest that any posters on this thread take the time to familiarize themselves with the modern theory of evolution.

Perhaps that is because creationism is a religious belief and doesn't require facts. If a creationist reads a theory that is in direct opposition to their beliefs, they're not going to agree with it as that would be questioning their faith.

It's really easy just to say 'God did it' rather than look any deeper.

This was a script I was working on to become a YouTube video that I have yet to get around to making. But it might be of help for those of you who are creationists wishing to disprove evolution and support your own claims.

So you want to argue for creationism?

Well here's a helpful guide for doing just that.

Don't hurt your credibility, know what your talking about.
When arguing creation over evolution argue points evolution actually makes. When you try to discredit evolution by saying it doesn't adequately explain how the universe or life began, your only making yourself look like you have no idea what your talking about. Hurting your opposition.
While creation does make a blanket statement covering both the Big Bang and abiogenesis arguing against these points isn't arguing against evolution. Nor does it give validity to creation over evolution since you didn't make points that are covered by evolution.

To help, here is the definition of what evolution is.
"Evolution is a process that results in heritable changes in a population spread over many generations. In fact, evolution can be precisely defined as any change in the frequency of alleles within a gene pool from one generation to the next."
So next time you want to say "evolution doesn't make sense because" you can actually insert the actual definition of evolution and argue from that point, rather than one that does not actually define evolution.

Don't treat evolution as just being a belief.
Evolutionism is an archaic inaccurate term, often used to try and make the theory of evolution seem as if it's entirely based on belief with no supporting evidence. Not only does using this term hurt your credibility it also makes you look ignorant of what a scientific theory is and what the process is leading to one. Saying "evolution is just a theory" does this as well. Above all never combine them in the same sentence like this "evolutionism is only a theory" If you do you make yourself look like you belong in the back of the short bus.

Don't just discredit, offer evidence.
While it's all fine and dandy that you try and discredit the theory of evolution if you want creationism to stand in it's place you have to provide evidence for it's validity. Even if you do manage to disprove evolution beyond a shadow of a doubt you sill haven't elevated creation to being the valid explanation. Yet again this is offering evidence for creation rather then evolution not evidence for creation rather then the Big Bang or abiogenesis. So even if you do manage to insert creation over these two theories you still haven't touched the theory of evolution. Just looking around and noting that things exist does is not supporting evidence for creation. All this does is show that things exist, not how they came into existence.

When you say evolution is false and creation is correct you are saying change in the frequency of alleles within a gene pool from one generation to the next doesn't happen, these things are done by a creator and not allele frequency change over generations. To offer evidence you have to show an example of this happening.
If you can do this you not only manage to discredit evolution but elevated creation in it's place.

This was a script I was working on to become a YouTube video that I have yet to get around to making. But it might be of help for those of you who are creationists wishing to disprove evolution and support your own claims.

Learn what evolution actually IS before trying to debate a side on an argument. There is nothing in evolution even relating to a 'half dinosaur half bird'.

Also, double post, technically gravity is a theory as well. GG.

this is simple, creationism offers an answer right away that you can believe, it isn't true though. evolution and science in general offers questions and hundreds of years of work to find all the answers (maybe thousands) but we get the truth from this. this is about whether you want an answer or you want a true answer. the truth takes work.

this is simple, creationism offers an answer right away that you can believe,

[I take it you mean how it looks like a cross. Sorry but the real thing really doesn't look tat way, that's just our own man made representation of it. This is also why it's a bad idea to get your information on biology from creationist sites, they are very deceitful and will flat out lie to you.

Its in the shape of a cross sure its a little bent but if look at it for a minute and not just a quick glance you will see its in the shape of a cross.

Its in the shape of a cross sure its a little bent but if look at it for a minute and not just a quick glance you will see its in the shape of a cross.

Go on Google and type in laminin in pictures and I bet you that almost every single picture it will be in the shape of a cross.

Go on Google and type in laminin in pictures and I bet you that almost every single picture it will be in the shape of a cross.