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stephenking
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So, uh, yeah, the title pretty much says it. Lots of topics turn into religion debates, so this is meant for that. Mine is Atheist. Feel free to oppose, but I'll oppose your post, too.

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xAyjAy
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I personally have a belief in karma, not for anything religious or anything like that, but simply that what goes around will well and truly come around eventually.

there are enoufg example where the bad guy is the biggest winner.

if karma was real then i probably would be dead already xD
even if it was only for a some of the posts i made on this forum xD


there is still reincarnation, mabe he gets punished in his next life?

besides that, do good things to help other and not to get rewarded.

partydevil
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there is still reincarnation, mabe he gets punished in his next life?


then you also need to believe in reincarnation.
wich is fake by my standards aswell.
partydevil
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ive been thinking about this karma..
i guess karma exists sofar that, if you are nice to people then those people will be nice to you aswell.
but not like i help some random guy and 3 days later a other random guy will help me.

but i dunno if i can call that 1st example karma. it's just being social.

nichodemus
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i guess karma exists sofar that, if you are nice to people then those people will be nice to you aswell.
but not like i help some random guy and 3 days later a other random guy will help me.


How can one proof that events are connected and hence Karma exists? How can one simply link two events and then pompously claim that that is proof of karma? There's no evidence to show that the beggar I didn't help today caused me to have bad karma and fail my test the next day. What's there to proof that it isn't just coincidence and utterly random chance which people then twist and claim a divine source?
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How can one proof that events are connected and hence Karma exists? How can one simply link two events and then pompously claim that that is proof of karma? There's no evidence to show that the beggar I didn't help today caused me to have bad karma and fail my test the next day. What's there to proof that it isn't just coincidence and utterly random chance which people then twist and claim a divine source?


Depends on your definition of karma I suppose.

I view it simply as treating others as I would expect them to treat me, trying be reasonable for the most part and I suppose as PD says, just being nice.

When people are not like, invariably they end up tripping up somewhere in their lives, they've set themselves up for a fall by being horrible or nasty to people, or treating people disrespectfully.

There are religious connotations to karma, as Buddhists and Hindus' believe it is the cycle called samsara, but I don't see anything wrong just being cause and effect. Good karma, ie you benefit from being nice at all times - bad karma, you cause yourself trouble by being a nasty piece of work. Actually, I think that is all the cycle is, cause and effect. Could be wrong though.
nichodemus
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Karma as a concept came from ancient India and is the concept of "action" or "deed", understood as that which causes the entire cycle of cause and effect.

I view it simply as treating others as I would expect them to treat me, trying be reasonable for the most part and I suppose as PD says, just being nice.


This is just the Golden Rule, not karma.
Dewi1066
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This is just the Golden Rule, not karma


Perhaps, but I prefer to view it as a kind of karma. It may not fit the technical or religious definition, but it fits in my head if that makes sense?
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Good karma, ie you benefit from being nice at all times - bad karma, you cause yourself trouble by being a nasty piece of work. Actually, I think that is all the cycle is, cause and effect. Could be wrong though.


Of course in reality it doesn't always work that way.

Perhaps, but I prefer to view it as a kind of karma. It may not fit the technical or religious definition, but it fits in my head if that makes sense?


Not really. That's a bit like saying "My definition of theist might not be belief in a god, but it fits in my head."
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I'd consider myself a scientific antognist-i believe that it's possible to be have a god-if so he just uses the rules scientists discovered(making scientists and ppl who believe in religion correct.

My personal theory is that if god exists-all religions are right-they just worship him in a different way(apart from some of the more darker manipulative religions&quot

Dewi1066
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Of course in reality it doesn't always work that way.


Strangely it always has for me. I'm not saying it is anything supernatural or weirdly wonderful, but it genuinely has always worked like that for me.

Not really. That's a bit like saying "My definition of theist might not be belief in a god, but it fits in my head."


Okay, I probably worded it badly. I have my own definition of karma would have been a better description.
MageGrayWolf
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My personal theory is that if god exists-all religions are right-they just worship him in a different way(apart from some of the more darker manipulative religions&quot


That's not possible. Many religions hold vastly different and contradictory interpretations of god and what this being has done. Even when it comes to the number of gods religion has no consensus.
partydevil
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My personal theory is that if god exists-all religions are right-they just worship him in a different way


what about older religions that had more then just 1 god?
Kasic
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My personal theory is that if god exists-all religions are right-they just worship him in a different way


That was my theory...when I was 5. Upon finding out that there's other religions that believe in more than one god, that theory went down the toilet.

scientific antognist


Agnostic, or antagonist?

As for the karma thing, sort of. If you do bad things, you're more likely to get punished (law, revenge, etc) and if you do good things, people are more likely to help you when you need it.
partydevil
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As for the karma thing, sort of. If you do bad things, you're more likely to get punished (law, revenge, etc) and if you do good things, people are more likely to help you when you need it.


thats being social or not. not karma.
Kasic
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not karma.


Which is why I said "sort of." I know that's not what the actual belief in karma is.
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