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dudeguy45
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[url=http://www.arktimes.com/articles/articleviewer.aspx?ArticleID=2f5d7a3b-c72a-446b-8d20-3823aa79c021]


What do you think?

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Drace
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I refuse to stand all the time. I don't get a god dam article written about me.

RailroadBill
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I refuse to stand all the time. I don't get a god dam article written about me.

maybe they refuse to acknowledge any action, or lack thereof, made by a communist.
Yodadude53
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In my opinion, that's just plain stupid. Do they really have to make a whole article about a kid not standing in front of a flag? I know it's supposed to be important and everything, but I think it's pointless. It just wastes time.

samy
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maybe they refuse to acknowledge any action, or lack thereof, made by a communist.


What is this the Cold War era? Honestly I think it's time America grew up and realized that our goals were not much different from the communists, we won and therefore we get to write history.

Anyways it doesn't bother me when someone doesn't say the pledge. My personal pledge is "One Nation under God (Or I would hope) wand justice for all (Because liberty for all? No.)"
Drace
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maybe they refuse to acknowledge any action, or lack thereof, made by a communist.


How'd you know o.o
MoonFairy
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He believed in something and was looking for a way to express it. Unfortunately, this was the wrong way. America has basic rights, true. You can't deny someone the right to show their beliefs, But the Pledge of Allegiance, Id PLEDGING your ALLEGIANCE. That is a bit obvious. If the world went to war, as in Everybody was fighting, would you go to a different country because we don't have gay rights supposedly? You are saying that you will defend your country! Not attack it's problems! LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. Doesn't matter if your gay, black, asian, or whatever! If you are an American citizen, You have rights! The kid needs to worry about other stuff. Not wasting his childhood on something he can't change. This country was built off of good ideas and hopes. And we fell into manipulating everything and trying to trick its own citizens. Maybe someday we can do something about it, but don't fret over it while your just a kid.

MageGrayWolf
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He believed in something and was looking for a way to express it. Unfortunately, this was the wrong way.


I'm pretty sure it's the 50s addition of "under God" that he takes issue with.

He has the right to protest this and is doing it in a passive manner. I would say he's doing it the right way. He's not hurting anyone, he's not trying to force others to do the same.
MoonFairy
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Yeah, but he can't. he needs to get that through his head and so do you ">.>

Drace
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Ehh yeah, defending the US just because its the country your born in is ridiculous nationalism

Why should I even pledge my allegiance to any country?

MoonFairy
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Cause they let you live there maybe?! Government could kill you because you are on their land..

Drace
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Cause they let you live there maybe?! Government could kill you because you are on their land..


And what legitimacy does this government's authority have over me? What grants the government the military power to go against my personal will?

And yet, I am supposed to defend this government with my own life?
NoNameC68
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Government could kill you because you are on their land..


That is wrong.

And what legitimacy does this government's authority have over me? What grants the government the military power to go against my personal will?

And yet, I am supposed to defend this government with my own life?


You should know better.

The American government can't do anything to you if you decide not to stand for the Pledge.

If your school does something because you didn't stand for the pledge, then the blame lies with the school, not the government.
MoonFairy
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I am not saying that it is wrong to question government, but I won't untill I know I can do something about it. The world is so power hungry and cruel that it doesn't even know what is right and wrong anymore! I can not do anything about Government (as of now) but When I can vote and or hold office, I sure as hell will be running! I hope that I can actually make a change in government on my own, to make people see what should be, but I don't know ALL the facts yet so I won't try now. Like Obama. He said he would shut down Guantanamo (I know I totally spelled that wrong) bay, and he didn't, because I think he just thought he could step in and tell them to stop. But there are so many people you have to go through to get anything accomplished, The system of checks and balances doesnt eve truly work anymore. Like I said before, It was based off of good ideas, but eventually was blinded by money. That is my view on the topic anyways.

NoNameC68
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He believed in something and was looking for a way to express it. Unfortunately, this was the wrong way. America has basic rights, true. You can't deny someone the right to show their beliefs, But the Pledge of Allegiance, Id PLEDGING your ALLEGIANCE. That is a bit obvious. If the world went to war, as in Everybody was fighting, would you go to a different country because we don't have gay rights supposedly? You are saying that you will defend your country! Not attack it's problems! LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. Doesn't matter if your gay, black, asian, or whatever! If you are an American citizen, You have rights! The kid needs to worry about other stuff. Not wasting his childhood on something he can't change. This country was built off of good ideas and hopes. And we fell into manipulating everything and trying to trick its own citizens. Maybe someday we can do something about it, but don't fret over it while your just a kid.


I think every American should stand for the pledge. However, I don't think they should be forced to stand.
MoonFairy
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I think every American should stand for the pledge. However, I don't think they should be forced to stand.

yes. but not standing would be frowned upon by society so it is considered wrong not to. T_T I think I am gonna be a hermit when I get to 18. I will just move out and go live in some cave. away from all of the worlds crap. well most of it anyways.
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