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whyismynametom
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America seems to get involved in other countries affairs, is this the right thing to do when we have problems of our own, or do we need to control the out side world to ensure our own safety?

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Drace
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America has been involved in the world's affairs for over a century now.
Its called imperialism.

DefinitelyCrazy
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Russians have been killing their own citizens for over a century now.
It's called communism.

Drace
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Russians have been killing their own citizens for over a century now.
It's called communism.


Nice try, but the USSR was established in 1922, and dissolved in 1991. That's about 3 decades short of being a century :P
EnterOrion
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You're all bickering lunatics with wacked out political ideologies.
It's called idiocy.

Armed_Blade
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You're all bickering lunatics with wacked out political ideologies.


All of us have SOME form of ideology or that that we feel should be in place of our current government.
If not idiocy, whats yours, EnterOrion?

Russians have been killing their own citizens for over a century now.
It's called communism


So has Israel, but they're a democracy. Not for a century, though. Half of one.

As to the original post, America is trying to run the world. They have become thaat nosty. Americas policies were better off after WWI and WWII -- keep some presence, control as much economy as you want without dropping bombs all over the place, save some cash, and party.
We're burning money in Iraq when we don't want to, what kind of BS is that? Take the morals out and look at it fiscally, we're doing nothing but helping to improve Bush's wallet -- We're wasting money on something we feel we don't need, something that won't help America out.
Its almost like we're rich guys flinging money out of an empty pocket that is actually a credit card. Company name: China
Freakenstein
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Wow erm....that was pretty good Armed_Blade. We're doing something about that right? Isn't Obama pulling our troops out, or....not?

Armed_Blade
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Wow erm....that was pretty good Armed_Blade. We're doing something about that right? Isn't Obama pulling our troops out, or....not?


Looking at Iraq, I believe he is. [Barely, though]
Looking at Afghanistan, he is failing -- he's adding MORE troops, and aiding war in Afghanistan is much more difficult seeing as its landlocked. We're wasting fuel that could lower our gas prices so we can send men to 'invade' (or whatever the hell they're doing) a country that has terrain so treacherous it hasn't been conquered since Alexander the Great. Idk why we're there, we send out billions in foreign aid yearly. A great example could even be through our taxes -- Why the heck are we sending 7 Million dollars a day to Israel? We send off 3.5 Million and 2 Million to Pakistan and Egypt -- DAILY. Whats wrong with us? I wouldn't mind if 50 Billion dollars were thrown into improving OUR country. Instead we're building the rest of the world, and not to say that they are out to kill us -- but simply put -- they are not America.
Drace
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Why the heck are we sending 7 Million dollars a day to Israel? We send off 3.5 Million and 2 Million to Pakistan and Egypt


I don't know about Pakistan and Egypt, but the money sent to Israel isn't for "development". Its being used for the military occupation of the Pakistanis.
Armed_Blade
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Military occupation of the Palestinians*
Pakistan is the country below Afghanistan, relatively overcrowded but a fun place (I'm from there ). It was used by America to fight the soviets and give way for the Taliban to emerge, and is being used by America now to fight the Taliban.

Also, Drace, it is going for development. If I pile my money into your military, it can A) Go to wherever it wants because I have it in my wallet and B) I can develop my own military. Its not just all guns and stuff, rather large constructional buildings and satellites that greatly improve telecommunications within a country (not just for military purposes) are constructions that funding like that could easily do.

America sends (documented) 10 Billion yearly to Egypt, 20 Billion Yearly to Pakistan, and <insert unknown number here> to Israel. We give out loads of foreign aid. I'm not here to argument about why and why not, but the fact that we're giving it out in a crisis like this. (Some may not call it a crisis, but whatever -- no point in discussing BS. Fact is we need cash) So inevitably we are working on helping out others, which is nice, but I've yet to see a poor man in debt lend me some cash.

no, instead he is adding 40,000 more troops in afghanistan

Lets not forget the 30,000 he sent in early in his presidency!
Drace
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The US owns more than half the Earth's resources. If the money was going for development, I'd encourage more of it.

America's problems aren't caused by foreign aid.

NoNameC68
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I don't know about Pakistan and Egypt, but the money sent to Israel isn't for "development". Its being used for the military occupation of the Pakistanis.


You do know what will happen if we stop helping Israel right?
Freakenstein
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Other guys will go MY LAND OUT OF THE WAY and they will go "oh noooo..."

Drace
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You do know what will happen if we stop helping Israel right?


Israel will continue its Zionist destruction without US help?
Freakenstein
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No, what I said. We are putting people to keep some religious enemies from tearing each other apart because their religions just happened to have their precious holy places in the same country.

Armed_Blade
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America's problems aren't caused by foreign aid.

I'd disagree. We've got an empty wallet and we're wasting money, its simple as that. We may own half the worlds resources but with our staggering economy I doubt it'll last?

You do know what will happen if we stop helping Israel right?

Israel will continue its Zionist destruction without US help? *Quoted from Drace*
They've already got Nukes, a massive airforce, and a growing military with or without American help.
You know that Israel is one of the world's leading Arms dealers -- and they train every single person with your average rifle and send them each to boot camp? Thanks to all the money we've sent them, they've created an army within their own society. Pretty creepy, especially when you look at where western media points the fingers.

America's problems aren't caused by foreign aid.
the money they send to pakistan is being used against india, thus harming its own interests as it creates instability in region


Not so, Pakistan has no ongoing conflict at the moment with India.
India does cause its own instability, they used to and probably will want to control the entire region. They have all control over poorer Bangladesh, but they can't just wage war with Pakistan and they're part of the reason the Bhuddists act up in Tibet and the Afghan Taliban are moving into Pakistan. Money from India is useful. Nothing by Americans, though.

Last skirmish to date was before the increase in foreign aid to Pakistan. For the most part, whatever is being sent is going to corrupt leaders/hopefully some war funding against the internal Taliban threat. I find it funny why we can't spend that money to support our own soldiers fighting in the Talibani homeland of Afghanistan.
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