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xfirealchemistx
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I'm taking a Politics class in school and the topic of gay adoption/marriage came up and I was wondering what your opinions of it? (I looked for a pre-existing thread for it and couldn't find it)

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goumas13
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Does this mean you are skeptical of heterosexuals adopting as well? If not then why single homosexuals out on this?

Personally I am not a big fan of adoption in general (regardless of the parents sexual orientation), however that's not the main issue here.
About the homosexual adoption my skepticism is due to a concern that since there are such powerful stereotypes against homoeroticism that the youngster will be ostracized or even hassled because of their parents being gay.
Beside this difficulty kids adopted into homosexual families share exactly the identical threats as children adopted into heterosexual families.
Asherlee
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As I have expressed before, I am, personally, not for marriage of any kind. But, that is just a personal stance. However, all adults should not have any restrictions on who they want to marry. Whether it be a man, woman, or trans-gendered person.

On adoption, again, there should be no discrimination of sexuality. There should only been discrimination against those that are unfit to adopt. For example, the unemployed, those that are mentally unstable, those with a hefty criminal background, etc.

Asherlee
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About the homosexual adoption my skepticism is due to a concern that since there are such powerful stereotypes against homoeroticism that the youngster will be ostracized or even hassled because of their parents being gay.


You feed those stereotypes and leave to room to grow. There are numerous longitudinal studies that show kids in raised by homosexuals are just as well-adjusted, healthy, and really do not receive any more bullying than other kids.

I could post some studies that actually show lesbians raise academically stronger kids than heterosexuals, but I won't push it.
Efan
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I could post some studies that actually show lesbians raise academically stronger kids than heterosexuals

Interesting. How does that work?
Asherlee
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Specifically, one longitudinal study of lesbian parents with children compared to heterosexual parents with children. Both sides have similar financial and educational backgrounds. It came to the conclusion that the children of the lesbian parents were academically stronger and more socially well-adjusted.

There are theories as to why it ended up this way, but it's still speculation. There have been several studies to test these result, each finding the same conclusions.

Journal reference: Pediatrics, DOI: 10.1542/peds.2009-3153

Efan
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Several failing students think "I wish I had lesbian parents..."

Asherlee
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But again, there are just a few studies on this particular topic. And I am inclined to agree with the result depends on the lesbian parents.

However, they are leaving out a bad part of the culture of lesbian parents. I know of plenty of 'lesbians' who were previously married to men and had children from that marriage. Then enter a relationship with a woman with that child. Usually those situations aren't in the prettiest light.

There are a lot of angry lesbians out there that have no business raising a child. Just like a mentally unstable heterosexual has no business raising a child.

I mean, there are flaws on both sides.

Efan
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Everyone has to remember that it's not just the parents, the child is very important. On a side question, does anyone think it's selfish to have a surrogate child when adoption is much better?

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Where does this whole idea that a man and a woman make the perfect environment for a child? I know a gay couple who has adopted a kid and they treat the kid better than some of the heterosexual couples I've seen. Christ one of my friends was thrown out of their house because she was gay and her mum and dad didn't like that idea at all. Mind, you I live in Canada so we have same sex marriage and what not. I see no problems with it.

goumas13
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Where does this whole idea that a man and a woman make the perfect environment for a child?

Conservatives usually believe that homosexual behavior is hated by God and condemned by the Bible.
So guess ...
Freakenstein
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Cross out conservatives and put "the highly-religious", because that was just bogus.

goumas13
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I stand corrected. Mea culpa, I meant to write something else, so do as Freak told.

grimml
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Why the hell shouldn't gay people be allowed to marry or to adopt kids? Unless you believe what a 2000 year old , very stupid, violence exalting and intolerant book says, there's no reason.

wolf1991
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Why the hell shouldn't gay people be allowed to marry or to adopt kids? Unless you believe what a 2000 year old , very stupid, violence exalting and intolerant book says, there's no reason.


The irony here is that America was founded by Christians fleeing prosecusion in Europe, for the most part.
Moe
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The irony here is that America was founded by Christians fleeing prosecusion in Europe, for the most part.


But it was founded with the idea to tolerate all within reason.
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