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valkery
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Why do half the people who visit the WEPR forums smear Christianity? Why don't you people realize that, yeah, Christians can be real dumb-a** mofo's from time to time, but yet there are many, many Christian organizations out there that do good all across the globe. Why must you spend your time trying to convince people that Christians are bad people when that is simply not true?

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MageGrayWolf
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You see someone else's reply that isn't for Christianity and say, "Oh, that must be right!" and then continue smear whoever defended against that?


Another thing I don't particularly like about Christianity is the abundance of hypocrisy.

Further, I will pray for you.


Do you mean that in the good way or bad way?

I am not able to convince your and change your heart. That is something I know only God can do... but as you reject God and His ways,


Then why doesn't he change us? I have stated a number of times what it will take for me to believe, yet this being has yet to deliver.

I want to ask all of you; Would you rather deny God, then die and find out that there is a God then burn in Hell because sin is punishable by death, or Accept God and find out there isn't one?


As Freakenstein pointed out earlier it's not that simple. It's not just believe in Christianity and burn or deny God. There are literally thousands of religions out there, and tens of thousands of variations`there in. Even with all that we still have the chance of non of it being right and something no one thought of being the correct choice.
But I would deny (I might not say it out loud) any being who would threaten me with torture just for not believing they exist.

Bring on the fire, God's a tyrannical, hypocritical, homophobic, lying, back stabbing, hating being why exactly would I want to spend eternity with him instead of enjoying what time I have left on Earth?


O_O ...I don't think I would have ever expected you to say something like that.

why would a gay couple have sex?


For pleasure. Other animals use it as a show of dominance.

Because I really don't see you handling eternal fire and pain vey well. If you trust Jesus you don't have to burn forever.


Trying to claim you will go to a better place or that you know your correct while saying everyone else will burn, how pompous!
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But that is exactly why all of the things today happened. So why is there no torrential rain drowning us all?


God promised not to do that again.

If the parents have committed the crime why do the innocent children take the blame? Can you answer me that?


Who says the children were innocent?

God created incest
God created genetic disorders
God created STD's
God created death


Incest-caused by free will.
Genetic disorders-Caused by God.
STDs-According to many, caused by Satan.
Death-Caused by God, but believers get to live forever after they die anyway.
valkery
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But he's God. They would have gone to Heaven, or even better, be protected by God. Come on. He gave Moses awesome mage powers. He couldn't protect people from STD's? Or...didn't?


No, he couldn't. If he magically gave the people everything they ever asked for, then there would be no room for personal faith.
Kyouzou
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Just the fact that he included Hitler in the statement. Last I checked Hitler is Christian. So Hitler is in Heaven hanging out with God.


I thought that might be it, just checking. Don't you have to repent for your sins first though? Or is it unconditional?
thepossum
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Nah, not until I go to sleep. I am the only one arguing for the Christians at this point, other then bzrkytrky.


What about me? I may not be Christian, but at least I'm trying! :P
bzrkytrky
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Remember we're saved by faith not works.

True, but if his actions are contrary to what he is called to as a follower of Christ, then he does not have the faith. Just because Hitler said the words "Im a Christian" doesnt mean he was. By his actions, we can tell he was not.
Freakenstein
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By his actions, we can tell he was not.


Oh no, he was Christian alright. He said the words "I'm a Christian" because he was a Christian.
thepossum
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True, but if his actions are contrary to what he is called to as a follower of Christ, then he does not have the faith. Just because Hitler said the words "Im a Christian" doesnt mean he was. By his actions, we can tell he was not.


Not really. If you're Protestant, then what you do doesn't matter worth a crap, it only matters that you believe. However, Catholics believe differently.
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Only god knows the heart and the bible explicitly says that judging is a sin, therefore you have to take him as a Christian because he asserted he was.

And mage I always get pissed when people don't debate Christianity right and I'm on my phone. Me being angry and it taking ages to write anything made me condense my thoughts to one rant.

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Yes, Mage, in the good way.

Goodnight everyone. You'll be in my prayers. I don't care if you call me a hypocrite or what have you, I know in my heart what is right. If you want to know what my exact beliefs are, it's all there in the Apostle's Creed and the Nicene Creed. Goodnight, and God bless.

bzrkytrky
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Actions speak louder than words. If you claim the faith, but your works seem condradictory to it, then you lie.
And there's Judging...
lemme guess, Matthew 7:1? "Do not judge, or you too will be judged."
read a verse later. "For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."
I am using the measure God states in the Bible, the same measure which I expect to be used.

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Yeah, Christians as a whole are very twisted. There are some churches out there that will ask for offering, then take the money. Some churches say it's ok to Preach on Sunday and drink on Monday. Some don't even beilive Jesus was God.

I'm majorly upset with 'Christians' right now. The ones who smear Christians more than anyone else are the Christians themselvs. Then lie, cheat, sleep with their brother's wife...(Some might even sleep with their brother) while a very few ammount are living how they think they should beilive.

Yes, I myself am smearing Christians. But not the ones that are doing what the bible says, the ones who read it and ignore it.

Oh yeah, and the ones who say 'In the bible...' but don't give a reference. Yes you, hiding behind the large fellow in front of you. Please know what your taling about before you rush into a debate with people who actually know what they're doing.


Thank you.

Kyouzou
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Incest-caused by free will.


Alright here's how I'm seeing it

God >Adam>Eve>Children&gtopulation of earth.


God created no other humans, yet he wanted them to procreate. But at the same time the bible states incest is wrong, even though God set the example that it was the right way to go.
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You know, I was a lot like you about a year ago. I was a firm believer without a doubt in my mind and I argued many of these guys to a stall. Now if you wish to remain a sane Christian I wouldn't debate, it isn't good, but if you wish to learn new things and new viewpoints, all the while putting your belief on the line mind you, I welcome you to AG and the WEPR forum.

Goodnight mate.

Freakenstein
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Do not judge, or you too will be judged.


"Then do not judge Hitler as not being Christian, for he hath said he was Christian."

I'm majorly upset with 'Christians' right now. The ones who smear Christians more than anyone else are the Christians themselvs. Then lie, cheat, sleep with their brother's wife...(Some might even sleep with their brother) while a very few ammount are living how they think they should beilive.


I see what you're going with there. I see where you think in saying the Christians smear themselves. They commit the actions, and we just reveal them. If we didn't, they would cover them up.
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