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thepunisher93
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As you know things have been going for muslims for last decade.All the discrimination and hatred they have been facing.
Led to the rise of the term Islamophobia.
What r ur thoughts on it.

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nichodemus
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As mentioned earlier, flogging, stoning, amputation. For relatively minor offences, if they are offences.

thepunisher93
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These punishments are to keep order in society and they are not implemented blind folded there are few conditions to b met btw countries with sharia law implemented have very low crime rate.
For amputation :-
There must have been criminal intent to take private (not common) property.
The theft must not have been the product of hunger, necessity, or duress.
The goods stolen must: be over a minimum value, not haraam, and not owned by the thief's family.
Goods must have been taken from custody (i.e., not in a public place).
There must be reliable witnesses.
Harsh punishments for extra marital sex are to stop civil discontentment.
opposing to this there are also punishments for someone who
falsely alleges some one of adultery.

nichodemus
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These punishments are to keep order in society and they are not implemented blind folded there are few conditions to b met btw countries with sharia law implemented have very low crime rate.
For amputation :-
There must have been criminal intent to take private (not common) property.
The theft must not have been the product of hunger, necessity, or duress.
The goods stolen must: be over a minimum value, not haraam, and not owned by the thief's family.
Goods must have been taken from custody (i.e., not in a public place).
There must be reliable witnesses.
Harsh punishments for extra marital sex are to stop civil discontentment.
opposing to this there are also punishments for someone who
falsely alleges some one of adultery.


Amputation is a cruel and barbaric way of preventing crime. It doesn't matter whether a person took private or common property. Fines and jailing are much more humane ways than crippling someone; if there's something you should know, it's called redemption.

And human desires are human desires; to curb them is to go against nature. It's not sin to get tired of one's spouse and have to relieve one's desires.
thepunisher93
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Yeah right like jail and fine prevent crimes.
Tell me what will b your reaction when you come home and see your wife sleeping with someone else? I bet you will beat the crap out of him(at least)
Amputees are not left helpless they are supported by government.
here are some stats.
according to these in K.S.A there is one crime against 300 persons and in USA 1 crime against 26 persons.

thebluerabbit
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and who made that? the government? there are enough cases that america would say its a crime and other places wouldnt. that affects this ALOT. its also like hitting your child so he will behave. maybe he will be behave, your still a horibble parent.

that is the difference and that is exactly why people are afraid from that. you just have to understand that most people see those things as bad and your explanation is illogical in their opinion.

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I agree with thebluerabbit. Punishments like that only cause people to hate the person giving the punishments. You will almost never get respect from a person by hitting them. And the cutting off of limbs is almost never the right punishment. It's not ok to cut off someone's hands because they stole something. Let's say I stole your car, would I get my hands chopped off? Because if so, I don't think that's a very fair punishment. So many of the things I love to do won't be possible anymore. It goes beyond the punishment needed. You don't need to beat you kids to make them behave. And afterwards they won't respect you at all. In fact they may even hate you. Eventually if you keep beating your kids, they may even rise up against you.

loloynage2
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Occidental secular countries are better off then islamic countries. Proves that building a world on hatred is not that great.

thepunisher93
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So u say your system is better than ours fine, but we dont put sanctions on west because they got democracy than why do west put sanctions on us BTW this thread is way derailed.

thebluerabbit
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we talk about the INSIDE systems and not about relationships. i can tell you that id feel much more equal and safe in america then in an arab country.

thebluerabbit
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doesnt matter. ive heard of women who got hurt just for dressing in a "wrong" way. in many arab countries it is dangerous if people just dont like you. and im sure many other people who arent jewish or israeli can agree with me

thepunisher93
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As far as i think if you go some where where you dont like their laws you better walk away cuz the law of a country suites its conditions.That's why westerners used to have problem in getting a visa of Burma (arakan).

Sssssnnaakke
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a country suites its conditions.

So hitler's laws were totally ok becomes Germany's conditions were great for killing Jews and attacking other countries?
thepunisher93
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Well nobody had problem with hitler until he invaded poland he was killing jews B4 that

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This is sickening, disgusting, vile.

I understand that not every Islamic man is a murderer, but there are so many crimes, deaths, caused from Islam that there is no reason for anyone to support such a horrible religion. Islam needs to evolve into a religion of peace, not one of murder. Islam needs to evolve into a religion of equality, so that men and women are equals. Islam needs to evolve to that of a religion of tolerance.

Christianity has run it's course, and even Christianity has evolved to suit the morality of today. We do not need Islam to exist as it is. Islam, as of now, is nothing but barbaric beliefs used to give men untold power over their families.

I do not care what religion one belongs to, but Islam as a whole needs to evolve. If one who is Islamic wishes to prove that Islam is a religion of peace, then they need to preach peace, not ****ation, not justification for murder, not superiority over others.

thebluerabbit
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Well nobody had problem with hitler until he invaded poland he was killing jews B4 that


lol no one? jews, and pretty much all of eastern europe who should be inslaved. actually, pretty much most of the world had problems with him. besides, were you there? how do you know that no one had a problem? what about the people who saved jews even though they werent jewish? many people had problems with hitler, and i doubt that the rules in most arab country suit there condition. the condition INSIDE those countries is usually on the edge. its very unblanaced and thats because of the government and their rules.
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