@GhostOfNinja
that doesn't diminish the value of religion at all. if i have a way to make a steady income, that's good, regardless of the fact that there are many ways for me to do so.
Can't really argue with that ^^
to use christianity as an example, i don't think anyone is a christian these days solely because of the fear of eternal ****ation. in order to accept that idea, you need to have already accepted the concept that an omnipotent being exists, which you're probably doing for reasons that benefit you. but even if we accept that some people are somehow threatened into being religious, i'd still argue that that does help them find a purpose in life: they now feel that being a good person will be rewarded in the afterlife, since now they can escape the fires of hell.
Fear is a powerful tool. I think it's what is called a fear appeal, which is quite effective if followed by a simple and clear solution to the 'problem'. There is a certain amount of research on that topic. Staying with the example of Christianity, telling people that they will all go to hell because they're all sinners is the fear appeal, while at the same time belief in God is offered as simple and clear solution. So it's not the fear alone, but also the promise of salvation. An easy way to manipulate people, even if done unconsciously.
Of course, historically speaking there is another completely independent phenomenon; there has always been a rather big 'peer pressure', to put it nicely. Think Inquisition, for example.
Nowadays, things are a little bit more relaxed (sometimes more, sometimes less), but still your faith will usually be determined by the cultural background you grow up in.
All of this to say that a person's faith is not always a result of untainted personal conviction or long reflection. Often you grow up into it or are told that this is how it is. So, even if it makes you feel comforted, I don't necessarily consider a solution to be inherently good if it is dictated by the same people who told you of your purported problem. And that is not even addressing the issue of why 'bad' people are supposed to be able to go to heaven by accepting Jesus while 'good' people who don't are sent to hell.
you're also gonna have to elaborate on what you mean by preventing people from accepting death. what do you think religious people do as a result of this that's bad?
First, let me note that I didn't use the word 'bad' in this context. I was arguing that it is not fundamentally good; that does not mean that it is automatically inherently bad. In fact, I stated in my counter-claim that religion is neither fundamentally good nor bad.
Now then. This is a personal opinion, but I think that promises of an afterlife are just means to conveniently ignore the issue of death. Most animals have no concept of death, but as emphatic beings we humans do, even if only unconsciously; even Christians cry or are sad at a loved one's funeral, against what their belief implies. This makes me think that we all realize to some degree that death is finite, we just approach it differently; and in my opinion it is better to come to terms with the issue rationally (like some philosophers did, or tried to) instead of seeking solace in a sugar-coated mirage (remember that I stated that this is my opinion). I could even argue that an eternal afterlife is anything but good, but that may require a longer discussion. Let me know if you're interested to debate about this
In retrospect, maybe it
can be a good thing if it makes people feel better, or at least I can't seem to find an objective reason to think it isn't. At least in concept. As you noted yourself, the way religion is applied in real life gets twisted pretty quickly.
@Last4Skull
For me, I think nothing really die in this world, it's like that proverb of Lavoisier who says :
Nothing is lost, nothing is created, everything is transformed.
That goes for matter and energy, but not necessarily for living beings. The building blocks remain, but the structure is broken down, or 'dies'.
Our frequency change, emittings low frequency voice or something like that and nothing human can listen us, we can't really interact with other and material stuff because we're now unmaterial ?
What exactly do you mean by "our frequency"? Assuming you mean a voice, that wouldn't work since the 'voice' is just air that is stimulated at a certain frequency by our vocal chords. Without a physical body, you couldn't speak, nor 'exist' as a frequency.
I'm personally don't afraid at all by death, I don't expect to be save by someone but I'm sure it's not a end, maybe just a phase to pass.
I'm wondering what makes you so sure of that?
